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Does your wife know what you are spending your work time on?
Have a great weekend - for those who can afford weekends.  For all others - have fun doing SE stuff!
Steve Gordin SE
Irvine CA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:51 AM
Subject: SE Grassroots Effort at Change (WAS: Field welding)

Joe Grill wrote:

> -->
> ...I think Jordan has covered the issue as far as I’m concerned. I
> practice in an area where you never know who might be doing the
> welding in the field. I can spec. anything as far as certifications
> etc etc. and will never know, because beyond the design I may have
> nothing more to do with the project. This area is like doing design in
> a third world country...
Here's what I think ought to happen.

S.E.s ought to begin to REFUSE to do projects of the type where (1)
there are life-safety issues involved with critical components like
connections, proper installation, etc., and (2) the Owner will not allow
Observation (if not outright inspection) by the SEOR.

Yeah, I know: I'm dreaming. But it has been a LONG time since I've done
work under adverse conditions like this, and the last time it DID
happen, I sent letters to the Building Official (one of the rare
occasions where there was a building official) with cc: to the Owner,
protesting what I sincerely believed to be inadequate work.

Interestingly, this was intelligence gained from an "uninvited, unpaid"
inspection tour I made of this project. The Owner didn't want the
inspection, and I knew that the B.O. in this small city doesn't provide
inspection unless requested by the Owner.

So I did a guerilla inspection based on my almost certain suspicion that
things weren't done right--it was an unusual retrofit installation and I
had had to answer a LOT of "stupid questions" from the contractor, many
of them repetitive, letting me know he hadn't a clue what he was doing,
nor what I was asking for.

Sure enough, I found problems. I sent the letter. No response from
anyone, just as I expected.

And this client will never contact me again, I'm pretty certain.

"Imagine all the S.E.s
Telling the Owners and Contractors to get lost

"You may say I'm a dreamer
Well, I'm probably the only one..."

(With apologies to noted CommSymp Dreamer John Lennon)

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