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Thank you Paul,
This has been my approach in the past, but...  
The wall is actually seeing "some" moment and I suppose I was just being a bit cautious.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Feather [mailto:pfeather(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:11 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: slab on masonry

The masonry is not really stiff enough to act as a fixed connection, and if you did consider the connection fixed you would exceed the moment capacity of the wall section in a hurry.
We typically design the slab as pinned at the wall, then incorporate top steel (extended leg dowels) with the shear transfer reinforcing to mitigate any incidental cracking and provide a little extra moment capacity for the wall.
Not exactly scientific, more of a partial envelope solution.  We also try and minimize / balance end span length adjacent to the walls, as this makes the slab more economical and limits the rotation at the slab / wall connection.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:32 PM
Subject: slab on masonry

When supporting an elevated concrete slab on masonry walls, in the out-of-plane direction, what percent do you consider the slab fixed to the wall?

Sharon Robertson, PE
Arcon Engineers 
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