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- From: "Harold Sprague" <spraguehope(--nospam--at)hotmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:48:37 +0000
Tim,Apparently you are designing something in California. Most of the rest of the country has modernized to the ASCE 7-05 or the 2003 IBC. If you are from New Zealand, the politics involved could kick in a thread that would spin your head. I do not want to get into that.
The 1997 UBC represents the body of knowledge and engineering politics in place 10 years ago in the US. It also is reflective of the design and analysis tools from 10 years ago. Since then there have been a lot of changes in the US. We have a much more accurate prediction methodology of the earthquake ground motions. (We do not use seismic zones any longer.) We have better nonlinear analysis tools. We have more testing to substantiate systems. The current height limits contained in the 2003 NEHRP are more reflective of performance uncertainty than anything else. If a system shows good robust nonlinear performance, it is given the compliment of large height limits. If not, the uncertainty kicks in with lower height limits.
Systems (like "special" moment frames or some dual systems such as a "special" moment frame + shear wall) perform well in the nonlinear range and have large or no height limits.
You may want to look at the 2003 NEHRP Provisions and Commentary for an up to date view of building systems.
http://www.bssconline.org/ Regards, Harold Sprague
From: "Tim Shannon" <Tim(--nospam--at)nsw.meinhardt.com.au> Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org> To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org> Subject: Height of Building/Shear Wall design Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:30:27 +1000 HelloI am looking for a some advice on table 16-N of the 1997 UBC - as a New Zealand Engineer I am not really sure the background for some of the height limitations. I have a "theoretical" building in a zone 4 region with a height of 260 feet from basement slab to roof. UBC97 table 16-N will allow a maximum height of the building to be 240 feet for a Concrete Shear-Wall only system. Accordingly I would require a combined SMRF and Shear Wall system for over 240 feet - unless this height was not measured from the lower basement level. Question 1 - If I have a rigid basement structure and shear walls only as the lateral resisting system above "ground" level the height from ground level to the roof is only 230 feet, so does this justify a shear wall only system given it is under 230 feet measured from ground level?Another question I have relates to Shear Design of Concrete shear walls - the UBC does not seem to consider in depth that shear walls will have Potential Plastic Hinge Zones at the wall base just like a "beam-column joint" might have in a ductile moment resisting frame at the column face - I cannot find any attempt to try and suppress undesirable "shear yielding" through capacity design in the instance of flexural yielding at the base of the shear wall. When I am designing the shear strength for a ductile wall in New Zealand I would always design shear capacity of ductile walls to overstrength according to capacity design principles with a much reduced shear strength contribution from the concrete - is this not required in the UBC, am I missing something? Or would I just follow the normal simple shear design rules in Section 1921 of the UBC97.Any replies would be much appreciated. Thanks Tim.
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