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Bill,
No matter what the cycle time, the development will start with the newly reconfigured NEHRP Provisions Update Committee which feeds into the ASCE 7 Seismic Task Committee which feeds the IBC. We were promised some time ago that the IBC will only reference the ASCE 7 and the material Standards Development Organizations and not try to rewrite them, as has been the UBC tradition. It is hopeful that will happen during the next cycle.

One thing that should push that is that FEMA will no longer sponsor integration into the ICC, which they have done in the past through the Code Development Coucil. The BOCA and SBC had a long tradition of including the ASCE 7 by reference. The UBC did not have that tradition. When the NFPA came out, it merely referenced the ASCE 7 and the material SDO's. We should know more after the BSSC meeting scheduled for January 06.

Regards,
Harold Sprague





From: "Sherman, William" <ShermanWC(--nospam--at)cdm.com>
Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Subject: RE: ibc adoption
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:50:43 -0500

FYI, after the current code cycle (IBC 2006, ASCE 7-05, ACI 318-05,
etc), my understanding is that the codes are going back to a 6-year code
cycle.  (Some will be on a 4-5 year initial cycle to allow better
inter-code coordination. )

William C. Sherman, PE
(Bill Sherman)
CDM, Denver, CO
Phone: 303-298-1311
Fax: 303-293-8236
email: shermanwc(--nospam--at)cdm.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haan, Scott M POA [mailto:Scott.M.Haan(--nospam--at)poa02.usace.army.mil]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:46 AM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: RE: ibc adoption
>
> Scott:
>
> So what you're really saying is to buy stock in Barnes&Noble
> or Amazon.com or ICC publications etc...?  Sounds like a
> conspiracy to make every structural engineering firm buy at
> least 6 or 7 new code books every 3 years.
>
> Respectfully,
> Scott Haan.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Maxwell [mailto:smaxwell(--nospam--at)engin.umich.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:38 AM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: Re: ibc adoption
>
> Paul,
>
> A question that I would ask is did anyone at this seminar
> clearly indicate whether they were talking about California
> adopting a version of the IBC or just talking about the IBC
> process of publishing the final version of the 2006 IBC code
> (i.e. has nothing to do with California specifically)?
> My understanding is that CA will not change until the state
> agency/commission votes/decides officially to make the
> change.  Now, as I understand it, the INTENT is for CA to go
> to the IBC code and in theory to do it when the 2006 IBC is
> "out there", but I don't believe that the final decision has
> been made as of yet.  I _DO_ know that based upon the timing
> of the IBC process, it potentially makes more sense that they
> were just talking about the IBC process wrapping up the
> approval/publication of the
> 2006 IBC code.  The Ibc process is in its final stages for
> the 2006 IBC code.  There will be one more "round" of
> hearings in the spring with the final vote of the ICC members
> and the final release/publication of the
> 2006 IBC code by mid-year.  Once that happens, then
> jurisdictions (states, cities, counties, etc) will then start
> the process of adopting it for use.
> I know that Michigan usually lags by about a year or two in
> terms of adopting the IBC code for use here relative to the
> time that it was published.  For example, the 2003 IBC was
> adopted a little over a year ago, if I recall correctly.
>
> Besides, I will offer that even if they are talking about the
> CA process and not just the IBC process, then you can still
> get your hands on the VAST majority of what will comprise the
> 2006 IBC now.  Since the IBC code HEAVILY relies on
> referencing various "material" standards (at least for the
> structural sections, you can go get those referenced material
> standards and be long way towards what most of the structural
> provisions in the IBC will be.  Most of the material
> standards that the 2006 IBC will adopt by reference are
> currently available or will be shortly.  I know that ACI
> 318-05, the 2005 MSJC (aka masonry code or ACI 530-05), and the
> 2005 NDS are already available as I already have them.  ASCE
> 7-05 (which is technically ASCE 7-05 plus Supplement No 1)
> will be available anytime (I believe ASCE's website
> officially says something like Nov 20th).  I believe the
> AISC's new specs are already available for free download
> (goto http://www.aisc.org/2005spec to get the new 2005
> ASD/LRFD spec...I don't believe the 2005 Seismic specs have
> been fully approved as of yet [could not find them on the
> website] but could be wrong) but will also be in new Manual
> that will be release in December.  All of these publications
> will get you the overwhelming majority of what the structural
> provisions will be in the 2006 IBC, but not all of them.
>
> HTH,
>
> Scott
> Adrian, MI
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 PFFEI(--nospam--at)aol.com wrote:
>
> > i was at the seaoc moment frame seminar in june where the plan
> > checkers present indicated that the code would change to a
> version of
> > the ibc that
> was in
> > galley form at the time of the seminar.  at that time it
> was unclear
> > how
> the
> > building department would handle the code change and that it was
> > possible
> that
> > everyone would see the code for the first time on the day it was
> > adopted in
> the
> > new year.
> >
> > does any one have any more information.  when will the new code be
> > adopted and in what form? is it a form  available now for
> review? will
> > there be a transition period where the new code is phased
> in but old
> > is still accepted
> for plan
> > check?
> >
> > thank you for any information you can provide
> >
> > paul franceschi, s.e.
> >
>
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