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We have seen all kinds of plan checks over the years:
One plan checker reviewed our drawings and thought all the beams were undersized. He even had reams of output from computer programs that told us the beams were undersized. He wrote this up in a letter to us and the Owner. It turned out that this plan checker was not an engineer. He used to be a structural steel detailer and thought that he knew how to design beams. 
Other plan reviews come back often with with no comments.
Jim K.
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From: ASQENGG2(--nospam--at) [mailto:ASQENGG2(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:28 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Architect cheating on structural calculations - where's the building depa...

Hey, you bastards don't call names.  That's my opinion and I didn't call you names.  Actually I'm just talking about plan checkers that does not even know how to plan check or does not even do the plan checking.  You only spend a couple of hours to plan check a medium size residence by comparing the results on the calculations with that of the framing plans. Most of the plan checkers are doing their job very well but what piss me off  are those that will not spend time to review the drawings and the calcs and then approved the drawings like there are no errors at all.  I know that I should get most of the responsibility plan but checkers should also their part as well.  If, as I said before, the plan checkers don't have a degree of responsibility then they will just approve the drawings without plan checking it. Checking the most critical portion of the project or just minor things so that there is a chance for the drawings to comeback is good enough for me .  There are times that you need to submit about 90% of the drawings done because of time constraint and almost everybody is doing that.  There are engineers that are worse by submitting half done. So what I need is just a some plan checking on the part of plan checker. Is that asking too much?
ASQuilalaJr., P.E.
In a message dated 12/07/05 9:47:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ASLCSE(--nospam--at) writes:

In a message dated 12/7/2005 4:15:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, jatech(--nospam--at) writes:

Normally mistakes are done in the drafting side


And you think someone else should be responsible for this?! Shame on you!



Very well said, Dave!