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RE: AWS D1.1 v. ASME IX - WPS and PQR

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I recommend you include the following in the Division One section of your specs, at least for the larger projects:


Contractor shall maintain a full set of referenced Building Codes and ASTM documents on the jobsite.  In addition, the Contractor shall furnish to the Engineer for reference, a full set of all referenced Building Codes and ASTM documents.


I haven't had to buy Codes or ASTM specs for years.


Bob Garner, S.E.


From: S. Gordin [mailto:mailbox(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:13 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: AWS D1.1 v. ASME IX - WPS and PQR


Yeah, another great advice...


I once tried that way to find ASTMs, and searched all libraries in the Greater LA area.  A library 45 miles away had one set dated 1971.  The local university had a set which was only a couple years fresher.  These antiquities were for use only inside the library.


So, I gave up the idea, bit the bullet and bought one for my private use... 


Steve Gordin SE
Irvine CA


----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:35 AM

Subject: RE: AWS D1.1 v. ASME IX - WPS and PQR


Kevin - so your local book store or library branch has the ASME code on
its shelves? 

William C. Sherman, PE
(Bill Sherman)
CDM, Denver, CO
Phone: 303-298-1311
Fax: 303-293-8236
email: shermanwc(--nospam--at)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Polin [mailto:KevinPolin(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:36 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)
> Subject: RE: AWS D1.1 v. ASME IX - WPS and PQR
> Go to any Book store or Library and review the book...
> >(no time or budget for that!)
> Make Time!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gale45man [mailto:gale45man(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:19 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)
> Subject: AWS D1.1 v. ASME IX - WPS and PQR
> Our design drawings require conformance to AWS D1.1 and
> submittal of WPS, PQR, welder and inspector qualifications, etc.
> The (Canadian) contractor has submitted a WPS and
> corresponding PQR that are based on ASME IX. I am not
> familiar with pressure vessel and piping codes.
> Since the WPS indicates that the qualified thickness range is
> 1/16" to 0.672", and the steel plate to be welded is 1"
> thick, I don't have any problem rejecting the submittal.
> However, if the next submittal is also based on ASME IX, I
> wonder how to evaluate it. Reject it outright?
> Buy ASME IX and meticulously compare it to AWS D1.1 (no time
> or budget for that!)? Ask the contractor to compare the steel
> grades, other variables, and test performance requirements of
> the two codes for me? What would you do? Any suggestions?
> Thanks!

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