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I know an engineer who designed a small addition to a private school and in turn was not charged tuition for the year for his child.
Jim Wilson, PE
Stroudsburg, PA

"Mark E. Deardorff" <mdeardorff(--nospam--at)> wrote:
I knew an architect that used to trade services for a piece of the pie. But typically he only contributed his profit and overhead. He needed to maintain a cash flow to cover labor costs.
Mark E. Deardorff, Structural Engineer
Burkett & Wong
San Diego, CA

From: Jeremy White [mailto:jwhite(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:29 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Savvy Billing Practices
It seems to me most structural consulting firms bill their engineers out at approximately the same rates (NYC firms may be higher than average?).  A firm with a well known brand name may be able to bill higher, but they still can?t bill too far beyond the curve or architects will go to a lower priced firm.  I believe that an hourly or lump sum billing can?t be the only way to get paid for a job.  Does anyone know of any firms, engineers or architects, who have been creative in how the get ?paid? for a job, such as, doing work for free but gaining partial ownership of the building in return for their consulting? 
Jeremy White