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Scott - I agree, I didn't mean to imply that the design aids in the
steel manual are part of the code/specifications.  However, I used
concrete as an example to emphasize that the design aids are completely
separate from the code and for concrete must be purchased separately.
It is certainly a nice benefit with the steel manual to get the design
aids bound with the "code". 

William C. Sherman, PE
(Bill Sherman)
CDM, Denver, CO
Phone: 303-298-1311
Fax: 303-293-8236
email: shermanwc(--nospam--at)

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Maxwell [mailto:smaxwell(--nospam--at)] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:38 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Beam design


To "dicker" again (sorry...getting to be a bad habit), I will point out
that charts and such are not provided in the "code" (or specification to
use AISC's term) in the steel world either.  All the charts and tables
and other design aids that are in the AISC manuals are NOT part of the
Only a relative small portion of the AISC manual(s) are actually "code".

Thus, much like AISC is two types of organizations (both trade and
technical) while ACI is basically just one type (techinical), the AISC
manual is two types of publications - "code" and design aid - just as
318 is just one type of publication - a "code" (OK, so technically there
are two types of publications under the one cover as there is the "code"
[ACI 318] and the commentary [ACI 318R]...but they are technically still
two publications even if they are printed in the same book).


Adrian, MI

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Sherman, William wrote:

>compression and bending.  As Scott and Michelle noted below, these 
>concrete  charts are provided in design aids rather than in the code.

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