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# RE: RISA, Lb-comp top and bottom

• To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
• Subject: RE: RISA, Lb-comp top and bottom
• From: "Haan, Scott M POA" <Scott.M.Haan(--nospam--at)poa02.usace.army.mil>
• Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:50:54 -0900

From what you are saying it sounds like Lb-comp-top = 4'-0".  The top flange is supported only. When you put the beam in with the global Y upwards, it is having the positive local y upwards and this is considered the top of the beam.  If you had the beam rotated around it's x-axis 180 degrees then you would use Lb-comp-bottom = 4'-0".  If you drew the frame upside down in RISA and had your loads going upwards then you would have use Lb-comp-bottom = 4'-0".

From: john smith [mailto:steelstudent(--nospam--at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:55 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RISA, Lb-comp top and bottom

Hi all, i'm new to the listserve and am currently and engineering student.

I started playing around w/ RISA and have a few question regarding Lb-comp.

I know Lb-comp is the unbraced length of the compression flange, but i'm cofused about the top and bottom part.

If i have simply supported beam w/ steel roof joists bearing on top of it at 4'-0" o.c., is Lb-comp-top = Lb-comp-bottom = 4'-0"?

Thanks.

John