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> Subject: RE: Fees - was Re: Masonry Storage Facilities - fees!

> -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Fisher [mailto:dfisher(--nospam--at)]=20

> > "Dave, we WANNA use you, but you need to be the same as Joe Blow's fee
> > (1/2 of mine)"

Show them the door.

I might discuss 5~10% with more strict definition of scope to suit.

And if you keep sending them to Joe's Discount Engineering Emporium, Joe
will soon be so busy that he will be losing too much money, or
increasing his rates.

Alternately, the customer will find that they get what they pay for and
you'll get a call for the clean-up.

If Joe is TRULY providing the same product, then one of you is doing
something wrong and won't be in business for long.

Damn, I love it when the system works ...

> -----/Original Message-----

> IOW, most clients don't find out--until it's too late, if they ever
> do--just how "bad" Joe's services are.
> Many of WJE's projects are a direct result of bad engineering--for
> example, I have a job I'm looking at, where there are concrete columns
> exhibiting gross defects such as flexural cracking. You look at the
> original drawings from the engineer, and you say to yourself "my gosh,
> what WAS he thinking..."
> But hey, he was *cheap*!

If the customer is the type that would be doing repeat work, Joe just
lost and you gained a more knowledgeable client. Why should you be the
bad guy when you can let Joe take that role.

Sometimes, you have to be patient to get the project.


R. Paul Ransom, P. Eng.
Burlington, Ontario, Canada
<mailto:ado26(--nospam--at)> <>

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