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Fellow engineers,
        Thank you very much for your replies to my posting.  Twenty replies was much more than I expected.  I appreciate each one of them.
Regards to all,
H. Daryl Richardson
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: Landscape Retaining Wall

Or, how about a 2-ft flat steel plate installed vertically restrained against lateral displacement by 3-ft + or - long galvanized iron pipes driven into the ground about 2-ft.  This system will not trap water -- the L-shaped plate will tend to hold water.  If you don?t want to see the pipes, they could be driven thru U-bolts or galvanized U-clamps bolted onto the back of the plates.


A protective coating sounds good ? I think cold-applied galvanizing is available from Home Depot; asphalt foundation spray should last a long time too.  In any case, by the time corrosion takes its toll on the assembly, you may be ready for changes.


Nels Roselund, SE

South San Gabriel, CA


From: chuck utzman [mailto:chuckuc(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:14 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Landscape Retaining Wall


Not what you'd call "thin". How about P.T. 2x12 with steel posts?
Chuck Utzman

Kestner, James W. wrote:

For a 2' high wall, I would recommend using landscaping blocks, set on a gravel base. Step the face of the wall back into the soil. There are many commercially available systems of landscaping blocks.


Jim K.


 -----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Richardson [mailto:h.d.richardson(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:31 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Landscape Retaining Wall

Fellow engineers,


        I have a piddly little retaining wall about 12' long retaining up to 2' of soil.  For landscaping reasons it is desirable to have this as thin as possible.  One possible design is an L shaped bent steel plate about 3' high with a 2'  "footing" under the high side utilizing the weight of soil for stability.


        My only concern about this design is corrosion.  I have some thoughts on this. First is to use a low alloy steel which will perform well on the "air" side but I don't know about the "soil" side (I believe A242 might be such a steel).  Second is to provide a corrosion allowance and not worry about it.  Third is to use a protective coating such as asphalt foundation spray.  Fourth is to give up on the whole idea; tell my wife she can't have it (tactfully, of course); and look for a completely different solution.


        Does anyone have any thoughts on this?


Thanks in advance,


H. Daryl Richardson