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# RE: phi in both sides of formula 14-1

• To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
• Subject: RE: phi in both sides of formula 14-1
• From: "Eugenio Aburto" <aburtoeugenioarch(--nospam--at)hotmail.com>
• Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:50:04 -0800

Always is refreshing to have a laugh of architects, it is our nature.   Thanks for your response. anyway.

From: "David Maynard" <davemaynard(--nospam--at)vcn.com>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Subject: RE: phi in both sides of formula 14-1
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:08:42 -0700

Eugenio wrote:

?I am confused with the formula (14-1) "Design axial load strength" which sowns a factor "phi" at the two sides of the formula.     In the 2001 California Building Code.

My recollection in algebra says that a value goes to the other side of the formula with the oppossite sign. If I follow the rule, "phi" multiplying goes dividing, means phi/phi=1.

Why in such Chapter 19, DIVII - 1914.5.1 even it gives a value of 0.70 to phi?.

In response:

I think the last statement just about sums up the root of the problem right there.

*laugh*  Sorry, I couldn?t resist.  *laugh*  Just havin? some fun.  I?m in a goofy kinda mood today.

But come on? how many Engineers out there read that statement and thought the exact same thing.  I know you?re out there.  You know who you are!!!

Comedy by:

Dave Maynard, PE

Gillette, Wyoming

P.S. The wind?s blowing like crazy today.  I?m starting to get cabin fever.

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