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RE: Dallas to Calatrava: Redesign within the Budget

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The Webster's dictionary I have says that the plural for stadium is either
stadia or stadiums...

Also, datums is an acceptable plural of datum when used properly.

-----Original Message-----
From: dave lowen [mailto:jatech(--nospam--at)kwic.com]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:56 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: Dallas to Calatrava: Redesign within the Budget


On another note, the plural of stadium is stadia.

Everyone, repeat after me;

Datum data
Aquarium aquaria
Stadium stadia
Radius radii
Formula formulae

Sorry David, it's like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: David Fisher [mailto:dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com]
Sent: June 9, 2006 4:55 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: Dallas to Calatrava: Redesign within the Budget

I agree, Bill,

But cities keep raiding the public coffers to build stadiums.


One of the more bizarre jobs we ever did was for the owner of the NJ Nets
and Devils.


We actually designed a stadium in CT that we knew never would get built.


Why, to bully the NJ state legislature to pay for a new arena by threatening
to move
To CT.

It worked.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Polhemus, Bill [mailto:BPolhemus(--nospam--at)wje.com]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:43 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: Dallas to Calatrava: Redesign within the Budget

For instance, it has been shown by in-depth study, that sports teams do
NOT add that much to the economy of a given city, other than "intangible
value."

Just as you say, for every dollar taken in, there's a good part of a
dollar that goes out somewhere else in the city (e.g. folks are going to
the sports venue, so they don't go to the movies that weekend).

In truth, I think real economic value is ADDED when something is
PRODUCED--even if it's in the form of information or organized data.

"Bread and circuses" has always been a formula for public waste.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jordan Truesdell, PE [mailto:seaint1(--nospam--at)truesdellengineering.com]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:08 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Re: Dallas to Calatrava: Redesign within the Budget

I've always found it interesting that nobody determines who the losers
are in such situations, and how big the losses are.

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