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The weight of the roof should be 1/5% of the equipment = 20 times the weight of the equipment.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf, Mohammed (
Qatar) [mailto:mohammed.ashraf(--nospam--at)worleyparsons.com]
Sent:
Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:20 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: Dead+Seismic for heavy equipment on roof

 

Thanks Bryson and Dave.

 The no. is 5% means I need to provide the weight of building should be 1.05 times that of the equipment. The original client document shows composite steel decking and concrete columns. I am planning to change it to RCC beam and roof slab system. Any comments from anybody.

Regards

Ashraf

 


From: Michael Bryson [mailto:mbryson(--nospam--at)NYASE.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 12:04 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: Dead+Seismic for heavy equipment on roof

 

I believe the number is 5%.

Michael Bryson, SE

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Gaines [mailto:gainesengr(--nospam--at)earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:16 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Dead+Seismic for heavy equipment on roof

 

Joe, Neil and Mohammed,

 

Good points by Neil and Joe.

 

Lateral force, Fp need not be higher than 4x the forces at ground level for equipment above the roof level, per EQ. (32-3) of section 1632 of the UBC/CBC.  That's a high lateral load for frames above a roof.

 

Check overturning of the frame/equipment at the base for dead plus seismic for lateral forces in all directions and find the downward jamb force on the roof beams due to overturning.  This may govern over dead plus live.  Design equipment connections through the roof framing to the primary frame for any uplift - dead minus seismic.

 

If the overall mass of the building is not increased significantly by the weight of the equipment, say over 10% to 15% of the total mass, it may not be necessary to perform a lateral analysis of the entire building.  This is listed in the code for existing buildings.  If the building has poor seismic design, such as older, poorly connected masonry and concrete wall buildings with wood roofs, unreinforced masonry buildings or older steel moment frame buildings, it may be advisable though.  In that case you can recommend it be done (in writing) and list it as not included in your scope of work.

 

Good luck getting the project,

Dave Gaines

Pasadena. CA

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:41 PM

Subject: Re: Heavy equipment on roof

 

Redesign the new roof beams after they give the exact location of the new equipment.

 

Follow the vertical loads to ground.

 

Do the seismic attachment of the equipment to new beams and roof structure.

 

Do a new lateral analysis for building for new dead loads.

 

Joe Venuti
Johnson & Nielsen Associates
Palm Springs, CA