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Ronald C. Pagan P.E.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Maxwell [mailto:smaxwell(--nospam--at)engin.umich.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:40 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: Response to Kirtesh's concern

Bill:

I use it for multiple reasons...

1) My alumni account only really allows me access to UNIX machines
through
a SSH connection.  Thus, I only have a "dumb" text terminal (i.e.
command
line) interface to use.  Thus, if I do it through the actual UNIX login,
then PINE is the best option.  In otherwords, I am not using some nice
graphical interface to access the account.

2) It means that things like viruses and trojan horses are not an issue
for me in email.

3) I can use Outlook (or some other POP or IMAP) email client to
retrieve
the email, but I like to leave the messages on the server for extended
periods of time.  This allows me to access them from ANYWHERE, either by
using a SSH connection or using a web interface (I have that option as
well).  I will retrieve the messages with Outlook and delete them off
the
server when I have accumulilated enough messages that I want to archive
(I
am a SERIOUS pack rat, even with email).

4) And the ability to easily turn on full email Internet headers is
nice.
I will point out that you can see those headers in Outlook, but it is
less
convinient (must got to View:Options... menu option).

5) Last...I kind of like it.  It has grown on my over the years.

Regards,

Scott
Adrian, MI


On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Polhemus, Bill wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Maxwell [mailto:smaxwell(--nospam--at)engin.umich.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:55 AM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: Re: Response to Kirtesh's concern
>
> Fortunately, for this email account I use Pine (a UNIX based text
email
> client)...
>
> -----/Original Message/-----
>
> Interested to know why you use PINE. I use it occasionally to
"diagnose"
> email problems on my server (since it shows you a whole lot more
> information than the "dumbed down" headers on Windows-based clients
like
> Outlook, and allows you to manipulate the header info).
>
> PINE was very popular some time ago when a lot of people had "shell
> accounts" on UNIX servers as their Internet access (back in the
pre-WWW
> days in particular). Not sure why many people would use it today. I
> noticed that some of the Linux distros like Fedora have even dropped
> it--I have to go find it somewhere whenever I upgrade my Fedora-based
> server.
>
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