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Re: Support installed low - steel deck pounded down to support for puddle welds - still ok?

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Scott-
It makes one wonder what else they are "hiding" from you. I hope you have a good inspector. 
 
Bill Cain, S.E.
2510 Prince Street
Berkeley CA 94705
(510) 305-6520
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott.M.Haan(--nospam--at)poa02.usace.army.mil
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Sent: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: Support installed low - steel deck pounded down to support for puddle welds - still ok?

Apparently there was a big kink in the deck directly over a joist but by the time I got there it was covered and nothing was apparent from below because it was directly over a joist.  I may be mistaken on the amount it needed to be lowered. 
 
 


From: Kestner, James W. [mailto:jkestner(--nospam--at)somervilleinc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:17 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: Support installed low - steel deck pounded down to support for puddle welds - still ok?

In a situation like this where the deck will not "lay down", we usually have them cut the top of the deck directly over a joist and make sure the deck can span as a simple span to support the load. I have heard of ironworkers trying to stand on the deck to bring in place so it can be welded but I have never heard of it being "pounded down".
 
Jim K.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Haan, Scott M POA [mailto:Scott.M.Haan(--nospam--at)poa02.usace.army.mil]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:40 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Support installed low - steel deck pounded down to support for puddle welds - still ok?

I am dealing with a situation where an LH-joist was 3" low and the top of the steel roof deck was pounded down over the top of the LH-joist so the puddle welds could be made to the support. This looks like it would be ok for gravity. 
 
Does this seriously weaken the diaphragm shear capacity?  Should it be reinforced somehow?
 
Thanks.

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