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- Subject: RE: Hiring practices
- From: "Riquelme, Robert" <RRiquelme(--nospam--at)lucasgroup.com>
- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:02:47 -0500
- Cc: "Gerard Madden, SE" <gmse4603(--nospam--at)gmail.com>
This is a common perspective but what others have discovered is this. Think of our services this way. Athletes know who all the teams are, so how come they go through an agent and not directly to the ball team. Could it be?:
1. The agent (recruiter) has a better idea of what the market is paying and can negotiate a better compensation package and has the ability to get multiple offers.
2. The agent (recruiter) knows about opportunities that are not advertised, that offer opportunities for greater growth than what is advertised.
3. The agent (recruiter) spends all there time developing key relationships locally and nationally saving a professional time from having to post resumes, setting up interviews, negotiating compensation and wasting time interviewing on positions that are not what your looking for plus avoiding embarrassment or fear of the possibility of having your current employer find out your looking for a better opportunity.
From: Gerard Madden, SE [mailto:gmse4603(--nospam--at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:01 AM
Cc: Riquelme, Robert
Subject: Re: Hiring practices
I went through a recruiter when ENRON hired me a few years back.
IIRC, the recruiter got paid a percentage of my salary if I lasted 3 months. I think it was in the 10-15% range as the fee for the salary.
Their biggest limitation, if that is the setup, is companies not wanting to pay the finders fee and then the employee takes off.
My personal opininon is that SE's are a fairly small community. Recruiters are probably a good way to go if you're re-locating, but if you're staying in the same area, you probably know all the firms in the area or can find out pretty easily.
Luckily, I got out of Enron about 4 months before it collapsed.
So, in your opinion the key is to work with a recruiting company like your company. Of course…
How much does it cost for a company to hire a company like yours? We've got another recruiter working for us right now, but so far we're not too impressed. I get the feeling that they're just posting the job on Monster and waiting for people to come to them. We could easily do that ourselves. What would your company do that is above and beyond that?
What sells the position other than the salary we're offering (which is definitely competitive for the experience level we're expecting)? Is being located in California the issue that's really limiting us? Are people more apt to willing to move to Oregon, Washington, Texas, et cetera?
Josh Plummer, SE
(949) 951-5815 (voice)
(949) 951-5848 (fax)
Riquelme, Robert wrote:
I work as an Civil Engineering recruiter, specializing in developing relationships with Infrastructure Design Engineers and Construction Managers nationally.
In answer to your questions:
1. Everybody is in the same situation recruiting professionals into California because of cost of living and because there is a limited candidate pool that is getting more limited.
2. People move for a variety of reasons, but the top two reasons I see for making a change is to accelerate career growth/job stretch, or a geographical change.
3. Yes it is a booming market. The smart money is for professionals to tap into an information source to explore career opportunities to see if the opportunities are superior to what your doing today. Most people don't move just for compensation, but if you want to make more money now is the time to do it.
4. Yes, recruiters are busier than ever, again it is also a good bet for employers as well as professionals to align themselves with recruiters that are networked into their industry space in order to tap into a very busy and passive candidate pool that does not have time or interest to be looking at job boards. Professionals will make a move if they are either contacted by their own personal network or by a recruiter who specializes in developing relationships with professionals, taking the time to understand what information would be of value to them and then matching them up with the opportunity they desire. Note: Just like many professionals are passive, allot of the key opportunities are passive and not posted on job boards.
5. The key with anything is relationships, so if you want a key opportunity or you want to recruit a key professional for your company, align yourself with a recruiter that works in your space to make the introductions.
National Executive Recruiter
Infrastructure Engineering and Construction Management
Office 800 282-0360 x125, Cell 858 401-2855
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