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Jeff, David,
        Actually, contractors will "fight" about just about anything, particularly where costs are involved.  However, if you remind them that they bid the job as designed and that a change will involve a change order which will include a price reduction for the owner's benefit it's amazing how many of the "fights" will go away.
        Also, to give contractors their due, they do know about costs and cost saving methods.  It's well worth your while to learn all that you can from them at every opportunity; you need only treat them with a little respect.  It's been my experience (maybe I've just been lucky) that there are about three reasonably good contractors for each unreasonably bad contractor I've encountered.  Unfortunately, that's a bad enough ratio that you have to watch all of them for your own and your client's protection.
H. Daryl Richardson
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: Drag forces perpendicular to roof trusses and or joists

No problem, Jeff.  As Matthew mentioned, don?t hesitate to ask the boss or a sr. engineer for some input.  I know I did.  And, FWIW, contractors will fight just about anything and everything you put on drawings.  Out here in CA, most GC?s have gotten accustomed to seeing heavy duty hardware on plans.  They have gotten used to their fees as well?


David A. Topete, SE

Structural Engineer


GFDS Engineers

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San Francisco, CA 94105

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From: Jeff Hedman [mailto:jeff(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 4:13 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Drag forces perpendicular to roof trusses and or joists


Thanks David.  Basically, when you have this situation, it is always going to be messy and you will always be fighting contractors to put in the strapping and blocking.  I was hoping there was a magic way of making this not so ugly, but I guess not.  Thanks for your input.


Jeff Hedman , E.I.T.

L.R. Pope Engineers & Surveyors, Inc.

1240 East 100 South Suite # 15B

St. George, Utah  84790

Office: 435-628-1676

Fax: 435-628-1788

email: jeff(--nospam--at)


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