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I've been looking for more "wall art" for my office, and the office manager won't let me order anything from (One of my favorites, and all to applicable to too many in AEC

By the way - does anyone know of informative posters available -say a glossy 2'x3' of the most common structural shapes and weight series; or a pictorial of the hot rolling process? I looked on aisc, but didn't get anywhere.


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From: Garner, Robert [mailto:rgarner(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:33 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Unofficial Definition of Structural Engineering


Definition of Structural Engineering:


Working impossibly long hours for insufficient pay to satisfy a client who is never satisfied for the purpose of preparing drawings that will be rejected by the building department, all so that we have enough money to pay for insurance to protect us against lawsuits that are based on frivolity................I could go on and on.


Bob Garner, S.E.


From: Daniel Popp [mailto:drp181(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:24 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Unofficial Definition of Structural Engineering


Thank you to all who replied.  That is exactly what I needed.

Daniel Popp

----- Original Message ----
From: Michelle Motchos <mmotchos(--nospam--at)>
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2007 8:05:53 AM
Subject: RE: Unofficial Definition of Structural Engineering

This is the version I have posted:

“Engineering is the art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyze so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance.”
attributed to Dr AR Dykes British Institution of Structural Engineers, 1976.



Michelle Motchos, PE
Steve ns & Wilkinson of South Carolina, Inc.

Columbia, Sc

From: Daniel Popp [mailto:drp181(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:29 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Unofficial Definition of Structural Engineering



I'm looking for a reference to the classic definition of structural engineering, roughly paraphrased as:

"The art of taking materials whose properties we can only estimate to design structures to resist loads we cannot accurately predict in such a manner that no one knows the difference."

I've seen this in print somewhere, but cannot find it.  Any ideas?

Daniel Popp


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