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Re: Lumber Species in Phoenix

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Sorry, I wasn't able to reply sooner, as I can't get around my email very often.  Joist material is most often specified as Doug Fir.  Even wall studs are specified as Doug Fir.  But I also had a client that specified studs using Hem Fir.  I had a  contractor friend that prefered working with Hem Fir.  Doug Fir is a pretty good assumption, but really should be verified somehow in the field.

On 4/3/07, Rich Lewis <seaint04(--nospam--at)> wrote:



I was hoping asking the question on the List was like calling a local phoenix engineer.  I didn't expect a simple question to generate such a negative backlash.  Here in East Texas you can only buy Southern Pine No. 2 unless you special order lumber.  I assumed, and maybe wrongly, that there would be a predominate lumber species sold in Phoenix.  I assumed, and maybe wrongly, that it would be Doug Fir, since it is near the west coast.  I would think they would import southern pine, but maybe I'm wrong.  That is why I ask.  I thought Hem-Fir was mostly a north-eastern wood.  I didn't realize they were on the west coast too.


All I want to know is what the predominate species of lumber is in Phoenix.  Maybe I should just find a Home Depot to call.  Can anyone give me that number?  :o)




From: Daryl Richardson [mailto: h.d.richardson(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:16 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Lumber Species in Phoenix




        Why not just phone an engineer in Phoenix and ask?  If this project is a go you'll probably want to retain a local engineer to do at least some of the routine inspections in order to save your client a massive amount of travel expenses.




H. Daryl Richardson

----- Original Message -----

From: David Topete

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:54 PM

Subject: RE: Lumber Species in Phoenix


Or, to say the client a day's worth of your travel to field verify, assume a very low value of Fb, say 1,000 psi, and MoE,  maybe 1.5e6 psi.  Then, go forward with a very conservative design.  You could even isolate the equipment framing by calling for LVL or PSL engineered lumber, and forgetting that the existing framing is providing support.  Just some thoughts…


David A. Topete, SE


From: sscholl2(--nospam--at) [mailto:sscholl2(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:45 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Lumber Species in Phoenix


I suggest that you verify blocking,sizes of members, notches, dimensions of supports, allowable deflection, etc. by a visit to the site or else qualify your comments accordingly.

Stan Scholl, P.E.

Laguna Beach, CA