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I do remodels all the time and I seldom see grade stamps or connections.


Assumptions have to be made to some degree. When I make them, I assume a fairly low grade lumber such as DF-L #2 for sections of this size.


That’s what you’re missing.


I think Rich’s question is a reasonable one.


T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E.


Consulting Structural Engineers
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hemstad [mailto:mhemstad(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:46 AM
Subject: Lumber Species in Phoenix


You're kidding, right?


If you're going to work that far away from home, don't you think you should at least ask someone to take some pictures of grade stamps and connections?  Where did you get what information you have?


I must be missing something.


Mike Hemstad

Minneapolis, Minnesota


Original message:

From: "Rich Lewis" <seaint04(--nospam--at)>

To: <seaint(--nospam--at)>

Subject: Lumber Species in Phoenix


I have to evaluate adding equipment to an existing wood framed floor in

Phoenix. It is 2x12's at 16" o.c. I assume the typical lumber in Phoenix

is Doug Fir. Is that correct? If so, is north or south? What is the

typical grade number of 2x12's bought off the shelf at Home Depot?






Michael Hemstad, P.E.



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