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Hi, Dennis.
Just be happy that California does not require continuing education. Paying for 15 PDH's per year can be onerous for a small/home office. Now that I work for someone else it is not as bad. But I would have to spend $1000 / year if it weren't for committee activities. Of course, there is always where you can do it for about $30-$40 per pdh. But there you may end up taking some fairly tangential classes due to lack of variety. Of course, you can also take the same courses over every two years assuming the reporting period is two years. <g>
Mark E. Deardorff, S.E.
Structural Engineer
Burkett & Wong Engineers
3434 4th Ave
San Diego, CA 92103
P 619.299.5550
F 619.299.9934

From: Dennis Wish [mailto:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 1:52 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Seminars

Friday, May 18, 2007


Who does ICC really market seminars to? Recently I have received numerous e-mails for seminars in different cities being conducted for the 2006 IBC by Professor S.K. Ghosh, SE, PhD. While I admire the man for making his life understanding and passing on knowledge, I find it impossible to attend a seminar that he will be speaking at because of the total cost and the ramifications on the workload that gets pushed off.


One of you may refresh my memory as I deleted the advertisement for a new web cast or Online seminar covering the changes in the 2006 IBC by Prof. Ghosh. As I recalled, the cost of the online learning was still several hundred dollars. This upsets me as ICC has many online educational courses for non-members that can be had for about $70.00 each. Why must the cost for a necessary education in the changes and intent of the upcoming code in California require a course that is priced outside my budget or even prices as though it were a live seminar that we can attend? This defeats the purpose of raising money for the creation of such seminars by hitting the masses at a lower price. You can always make more selling to more for less (sorry if this sounds like an ad for Wal-Mart). The goal should be to help us get it right and educate us at a price that is easy to bear. Two or Three hundred dollars is an insult that seems to force down small offices in favor of larger firms and municipalities. How many engineers in India and China can afford to spend a few hundred dollars out of their income to attend the web cast or is there a discount as there is for drugs set by the economic ability of the country’s engineers to afford?


Maybe it is not offered internationally (but how can this be since it is an International Code)?


I think our profession has to rethink its greed and get it down to a point that each of can tolerate. I’ll go with the example book by ICC for $69 or so.








Dennis S. Wish, PE

California Professional Engineer

Structural Engineering Consultant

C-41250 (Exp. 3/31/09)




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