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I will note that ASCE 7 does now have a "simplified" method that is fairly
easy to use.

Personally, my biggest issue with the ASCE 7 wind provisions are the
provisions for signs.  Talk about a major pain in the rear.

Regards,

Scott
Adrian, MI


On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Barry Welliver wrote:

> Speaking of the wind load provisions....
>
> Here in Utah, we have been using the IBC since 2000 (actually January 2001)
> and have decided that the wind provisions just don't cut it for practicing
> engineers. We allow the use of the 1997 UBC wind provisions for simple
> buildings through our amendment process.
>
> (Apologies if the list already knows this, I have been absent for some time)
>
> Barry H. Welliver
> BHW Engineers L.L.C.
> barrywelliver2(--nospam--at)earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Maxwell [mailto:smaxwell(--nospam--at)engin.umich.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:02 AM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: Re: ASCE 7-05 Errors
>
> You want it shorter...no problem...just rip out the commentary and now
> your ASCE 7 will only be about 250 pages.  Of course, then you will
> complain how you cannot understand the provisions.
>
> My point was that of 400 pages there was only about the equivalent of
> about 8 or so FULL pages of errors.  That is about a 2 percent error rate.
> I don't consider that too bad.  Could it be better?  Yes.  But if you are
> going to call them out on it, then you should at least make sure that your
> error rate on things that you do (i.e. your drawings, your spec sections,
> your calcs) is significantly better.
>
> I am not saying that ASCE 7 is perfect.  Far from it.  Some of the wind
> load provisions in my opinion are obscenely complex.  But, if you are
> going to complain about it, then get off your rear end and be part of the
> solution rather than just tossing complaints from cyberspace.  And you
> don't even have to be on the committee to "be part of it".  You can just
> be aware enough of when the public comment period is for revisions and get
> a copy of the proposed changed to review and if appropriate comment on.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott
> Adrian, MI
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Jordan Truesdell, PE wrote:
>
> > Maybe that's part of the problem :-o
> >
> >  Jordan
> >
> >
> > Scott Maxwell wrote:
> >
> >  ... I will further note that 24 pages is not that bad
> > considering that ASCE 7-05 is about 400 pages long.  ...
> >
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