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Speaking of the wind load provisions....

Here in Utah, we have been using the IBC since 2000 (actually January 2001)
and have decided that the wind provisions just don't cut it for practicing
engineers. We allow the use of the 1997 UBC wind provisions for simple
buildings through our amendment process.

(Apologies if the list already knows this, I have been absent for some time)

Barry H. Welliver
BHW Engineers L.L.C.
barrywelliver2(--nospam--at)earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Maxwell [mailto:smaxwell(--nospam--at)engin.umich.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:02 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Re: ASCE 7-05 Errors

You want it shorter...no problem...just rip out the commentary and now
your ASCE 7 will only be about 250 pages.  Of course, then you will
complain how you cannot understand the provisions.

My point was that of 400 pages there was only about the equivalent of
about 8 or so FULL pages of errors.  That is about a 2 percent error rate.
I don't consider that too bad.  Could it be better?  Yes.  But if you are
going to call them out on it, then you should at least make sure that your
error rate on things that you do (i.e. your drawings, your spec sections,
your calcs) is significantly better.

I am not saying that ASCE 7 is perfect.  Far from it.  Some of the wind
load provisions in my opinion are obscenely complex.  But, if you are
going to complain about it, then get off your rear end and be part of the
solution rather than just tossing complaints from cyberspace.  And you
don't even have to be on the committee to "be part of it".  You can just
be aware enough of when the public comment period is for revisions and get
a copy of the proposed changed to review and if appropriate comment on.

Regards,

Scott
Adrian, MI


On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Jordan Truesdell, PE wrote:

> Maybe that's part of the problem :-o
>
>  Jordan
>
>
> Scott Maxwell wrote:
>
>  ... I will further note that 24 pages is not that bad
> considering that ASCE 7-05 is about 400 pages long.  ...
>
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