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# Re: Sole plate nailing

• To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
• Subject: Re: Sole plate nailing
• From: "Gerard Madden, SE" <gmse4603(--nospam--at)gmail.com>
• Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:51:21 -0700

Use SDS when you are dealing with 7/8" or thicker floor sheathing.

Don't run the wall sheathing down the outside face of the rim joist/blkg. unless that rim joist/blkg is engineered lumber due to shrinkage. Yet, you will still see it all the time in the field.

The penetration required is into the blocking, you cannot count the thickness of the floor sheathing as penetration depth.

hth
-g

On 6/14/07, Daryl Richardson <h.d.richardson(--nospam--at)shaw.ca> wrote:
Bill,

I don't know your codes well enough to make an intelligent comment here; but if you're transferring shear from the sole plate to the floor plywood isn't the floor plywood nailing enough to transfer shear to all of the floor joists?

Just a question out of curiosity and misunderstanding.

Regards,

H. Daryl Richardson
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Allen
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: Sole plate nailing

The required penetration must be in the rim joist or blocking (joists perpendicular to the wall) or joist (joists parallel to the wall). After all, that's what you are transferring the load into, right?

You can use a reduced capacity based on a linear interpolation between full capacity at 12D and half capacity at 6D. For a 16d Common that is 3-1/2" long and is nailed through 19/32" WSP, the penetration is 3.5-1.5-19/32=1.41". Linearly interpolating between 0.5 at 6D and 1.0 at 12D, I get 79% of full capacity at 1.41/0.148=9.5D.

Note that the 2001 NDS reduces the required nail penetration to 10D for full capacity (see Table 11P, footnote 2) which means a 10d Common nail finally has full capacity when nailing two 2Xs together. Hallelujah! Using the same example as above, the 16d Common would have 94% of full capacity.

Of course, the whole model gets real messy when you consider the diaphragm nailing into the same rim joist.

HTH,

T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E.

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 8:14 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Sole plate nailing

When a sole plate for a wall is nailed to a wood floor, is the plywood on the joist or rim joist considered a part of the nail penetration or does the required penetration have to be into the joist or rim joist? UBC requires 16d's but with a 15/32" or 19/32" plywood floor diaphragm and a 1.1/2" sole plate, the 1.94" (12*D, NDS) required penetration into the joist is not met. NDS 12.3.4 specifies the penetrations is "..into the main member.."

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