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Read what the post says.  Read in particular “…permits/engineering/city fees…”  Permits and city fees alone will cost you around $5/sf here in SoCal.  So, add in another, say, $0.18/sf for the structural engineering and we’re already at $5.18, so I haven’t even started work yet and I’ve already been forced to work for $9.82/sf.   

Heck, sometimes I can’t even find engineers that’ll work for $0.25 or even $0.30/sf, particularly if they notice the steel moment frames before they agree to the subcontract... 


From: Jordan Truesdell, PE [mailto:seaint1(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:20 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: ARCHIT FEES


ASC wrote:

I was amazed to see the following:



From: "Michel Blangy" <mblangy(--nospam--at)>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)>
Subject: RE: Architectural Fees for Residential projects

Last year I was involved with a spec. job in So-Cal. $1,200,000 was budgeted
for all hard/soft costs. Archs. fee including permits/engineering/city fees
was to be $15/sf. Projected sales price is to be 3.5 to 4 mill. I have seen
the same arch. do quite a few similar projs.


Comment: Does it mean that for a 5000sf home (sort of nearly a mansion)

a client would pay 75K in archit fees?


Sounds insane to me.



Sincerely, Gregory from Oz


Would that be insanely high or insanely low?  5000SF nowadays seems to be just a hair larger than a standard yuppie home, which in my area (mid-atlantic) tends to be in the 4000SF range.  What is impressive is the anticipated margin.

(bottom quoting for consistency)


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