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I have been reading this post and was too busy to comment, but this is a question I use to ask all the time when I was an engineer working for someone.  Now I get asked this since I am the employer.


This is my take.  If you want to be wealthy, then you go out and work for a Tech company or some Finance company.  But I keep telling everyone “if you are in this profession you can’t focus on the money”.  I got into this because I really enjoy structures.  It is in my head all the time.   I enjoy getting up early every morning and work on the projects that we have, or go after projects we would like to have.  It is unfortunate that we do not get compensated for what we should be doing.  I just lost a job from another engineer firm because they decided to do a project for half of what we asked for.   This is the challenge we are faced with everyday.


As for my employees, I make sure that their hard work is compensated for every bit.  We pay everyone for 40 hours but we also give comp time for people that work over 40 hours.  I think we all have to take a break after working hard, so I usually tell my guys to take the time off after completing a demanding job.  When the guys that work for us are driven too hard and are not rewarded for their hard work, they will start to hate work, then quality goes down and now I have a liability issue to deal with.


I wish there is a day that we can all get compensated appropriately for what we do, but it is hard when there are guys out there that are only charging $120/hr for their time as Gerard noted.


Marlou Rodriguez, S.E.

MBRodriguez Engineering Inc.

2355 Oakland Road, Suite 14

San Jose, CA 95131

Tel: (408) 432-4866

Cel: (408) 761-5013

From: Scott Maxwell [mailto:smaxwell(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:08 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Job Opportunity - OT


I have always been of the similar mindset.  I never felt the need to get "overtime" pay (i.e. one and half pay) for overtime, but I did expect to get paid for the hours that I worked.  Now, having said that, I am careful to keep in mind that if I work 8 to 5 for 5 days a week, I might not realistically being doing a full 40 hours due to inefficiencies/water cooler talk, etc.  As such, I tend to consider it reasonable for an employer to expect me to do some "overtime" (I am talking a couple hours a week maybe) for my 40 hour salary.  I don't consider it reasonable for an employer to expect me to work 50+ hours or so for a 40 hour salary...unless I am compensated in some other manner (a REAL bonus or REAL comp time...i.e. comp time that I am able to use not that get shoved to the side due to work load).  After all, I am pretty sure that my employers expected their clients to pay them for the work that they do.





Adrian, MI

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From: Jeff Hedman [mailto:jeff_h(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:00 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Job Opportunity - OT

I also work at a small firm that does not pay an overtime rate for overtime, but I am paid hourly for all of my hours worked.  I would say about 75% of the guys I went to school with are on salary and work roughly the same amount of hours a week as I do.  So when someone asks me if I am upset that I don’t get an overtime rate of pay, I tell them I am fine with it because unlike my friends I went to school with, I get paid for all of my hours worked.


Jeff Hedman , E.I.T.

L.R. Pope Engineers & Surveyors, Inc.

1240 East 100 South Suite # 15B

St. George, Utah  84790

Office: 435-628-1676

Fax: 435-628-1788



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