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   1: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .
             by dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com
   2: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .
             by Bill Polhemus <bill(--nospam--at)polhemus.cc>
   3: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .
             by dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com
   4: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .
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   5: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .
             by "Jordan Truesdell, PE" <seaint1(--nospam--at)truesdellengineering.com>
   6: Nevada SE
             by "Brian K. Smith" <smithegr(--nospam--at)bellsouth.net>



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Subject: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .
From: dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org

Bill:

I've researched this one extensively...

perhaps you can enlighten me on the reference.

dlf


> dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com wrote:
>> There's a lession to be learned here...just not sure what it is.
>>
> Maybe the Pied Piper of Hameln might also have a lesson to impart in
> this regard.
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From: Bill Polhemus <bill(--nospam--at)polhemus.cc>
To:  seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .

dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com wrote:
> Bill:
>
> I've researched this one extensively...
>
> perhaps you can enlighten me on the reference
If you'll recall, several centuries ago a mysterious "Pied Piper" 
offered to deliver the German city of Hameln (or "Hamlin") from an 
infestation of rats, in return for a hefty fee.

Having struggled with the rat problem for some time, the city fathers 
were desperate for ANY solution to the problem, and readily agreed. The 
Pied Piper played a tune on his pipe, and compelled every single one of 
the rats to dance out of the city, jump into the river and drown.

When he applied for payment, the city leaders, less desperate now that 
the rats were gone, decided that it had been "too easy" a job after all, 
and offered him only a fraction of the payment originally agreed upon. 
At that, the Piper began to play again, and all the children in the town 
danced along as he led them out of the city and over the horizon, never 
to be seen again.

MORAL: If you don't have anything to hold over their heads, human nature 
will decree that your demand for payment of your fee for service will 
not be give the same priority by your client as you put on it.

I long ago learned from sad experience, that if I complete a job for a 
client who's in desperate need, BEFORE I get any payment, suddenly my 
efforts won't be worth that much when the crisis is over. I call this 
the "Pied Piper Syndrome."

(I have not as yet determined any use for the children of my clients. 
I've come across an "administrative assistant" or two, but could not get 
permission from my wife--who's the only flutist in the family--to try it 
out).

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Subject: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .
From: dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com

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Subject: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .
To: bill(--nospam--at)polhemus.cc, seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org


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In a message dated 9/4/07 9:52:06 AM, bill(--nospam--at)polhemus.cc writes:
> I long ago learned from sad experience, that if I complete a job for a
> client who's in desperate need, BEFORE I get any payment, suddenly my
> efforts won't be worth that much when the crisis is over. I call this
> the "Pied Piper Syndrome."
> 
Bill, thanks for giving a very common scenario a name.   You are sooooo 
right!

Ralph


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From: "Jordan Truesdell, PE" <seaint1(--nospam--at)truesdellengineering.com>
To:  seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Re: You might be a structural engineer, if .

I believe the more modern tale (c 1910) of such an endeavor was in a 
story called "The Ransom of Red Chief" and is a cautionary tale that 
what you think might be of value to someone may turn out to be a burden 
instead.

Jordan



Bill Polhemus wrote:
>
> (I have not as yet determined any use for the children of my clients. 
> I've come across an "administrative assistant" or two, but could not 
> get permission from my wife--who's the only flutist in the family--to 
> try it out).
>
>

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