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In a message dated 10/31/2007 2:21:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gmse4603(--nospam--at) writes:
I received the same certificate from ASCE yesterday.

It was a a true honor. I framed it and placed it next to my nightstand. The picture of the kids will now go elsewhere.


On 10/31/07, Dennis Wish <dennis.wish(--nospam--at)> wrote:

My wife opened the mail today and left a certificate for ASCE on my desk that stated "ASCE (American Society of Civil Engineers) By Action of the Board of Direction (or should this be Director's) MY NAME has been 'elected' Affiliate Member……"

I haven't been a member of ASCE for over 21 years and could not understand why they would have "elected" me an affiliate member until I read the application that I was to send in. The attached letter gave me all the benefits of being an ASCE member and even offered the rest of 2007 (60 days) added to all of 2008 as part of my Affiliate Membership.

Now excuse me for being upset about this, but when reading the application to send in it appears that my election to be a member is based on send a payment of  $205.00 with the application.

Since when has ASCE resorted to the same type of trick junk mail that one might expect from Reader's Digest or any number of Spam messages I receive by e-mail? In my opinion, this belittles a professional organization that, while I chose not to join, still maintained a sense of professionalism that was honest and direct in their attempts to build their membership. This is an advertising ploy that I believe is beneath a professional association.

I'm not sure how many of you received this advertisement, but this falls into the same disingenuous spam that I receive on a daily basis including a new one that I received just yesterday which is a twist on the old African money laundering scheme that attempts to get your bank information. For those that have not seen this one yet it was sent with the following message:


"Good day,


Mine was only $185.00 I should have saved it and put it next to my ICBO member certificate.
Joe Venuti
Johnson & Nielsen Associates
Palm Springs, CA

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