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There are many practicing structural engineers out there who are
interested in sustainable design. As a matter of fact, the Structural
Engineering Institute of ASCE has a Sustainability Committee (I am the
committee Secretary) and we are presently working on sustainability
guidelines for structural engineers, which will be published by ASCE
when it is complete. I also host a sustainability discussion group which
you can subscribe to by sending an e-mail to:


This group is open to all structural engineers who are interested in
discussing sustainability and how it relates to our work as structural

btw: Andrew's post really cracked me up. Thank you, Andrew. 

Best regards,


Mark D. Webster
Senior Staff Engineer / LEED Accredited Professional
Simpson Gumpertz & Heger
41 Seyon Street, Bldg. 1, Suite 500
Waltham, MA  02453
781.907.9369 direct 
781.907.9009 fax

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I am totally with Bill and his line of thinking. And to be honest, you =
sound sorta like you hate freedom. The freedom to build whatever the =
hell you want and flip the bird to the world is our American right. Its
in the Constitution, which you probably can barely read since you sound
like you were educated in the public school system.

You must realize you need a 4 car garage, where can you put your Hummer,
Expedition, boat and jet ski. And what kind of hippy wants 3 people to =
crowd into a tiny 4000sf house with dinky 12 ft ceilings. How can you =
not derive supreme pleasure over designing these knowing their =
utilitarian function? And of course the next logical step in questioning
this way of thinking would be to go work for Greenpeace and build houses
of crap. There is no in-between or gray on this issue or any other =
issue, just like in all of real life.

Why don't you go shoot or save some deer, I am not sure which but they =
both make sense. I think as long as you eat the deer it is OK. Which is
why I pick up every liberal tree hugging squirrel I run over.=20

Who cares if they are not energy efficient, require tons of building =
materials, could house a small 3rd world village, can be nearly =
impossible to properly structurally engineer because the more cut up a =
roof line the more architecturally pleasing it is, and above all, are =
completely over the top look at me and all of my insecurities and I am =
so trying to keep up with the joneses and drowning in debt to do so. =
Just cash your check and be happy you got a job in the greatest country
ever (or GEEEETTTT OUUUUTTTT). If you stopped hitting the bong and put =
out the incense long enough, one day you may open up your own company =
and do whatever you want with whatever conscious you have. I mean, I =
don't believe in Jesus as my saviour but we engineer lots of churches. I
think strip clubs are a waste of money but I would design them too. =
Liquor stores, gun shops, drug dealer's house, Al Gore's save the earth
hippy house or a steel framed behemoth to support Rush's 400psf LL =
requirements, whatever pays my bills. Conscious and caring are for =
pansies, bunch of liberal fuzzy warm feeling crap.

Now drink a case of PBR and maybe you will wake up on the RIGHT side of
bed and realize how good you got it in 'Merica.


erik gibbs wrote:=20
> I do not like engineering large, very large custom homes with a lot of

> wastefull architecture.

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