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Structural package? I don’t need no stinking structural package!


ACAD doesn’t have a structural package!



The main reason I’m looking for a change is that I’m tired of depicting my work in 2D when the problems arise in 3D. Most of the issues I’ve been faced with are mostly due to the fact that I can’t see the whole structure in 3D even with the vivid imagination that I have. Not because of BIM or because the drawings are linked to a “structural package”.


However, that (the structural package thing) is going to be another monster change I’ll have to make. Keep in mind that most of my projects are wood framed construction, not exactly the target market of “structural packages”.


Currently the analysis “package” I use now is Excel. Hey, don’t laugh. At least that is better than my previous “package” (aka pencil and calculator). Although I understand Revit works with Excel, I’ll probably be moving to RISA. Most of my work is wood framed, so I think the most I’ll be able to use it analytically is the Floor module although they are currently working on a wood bearing/shear wall element. When that is developed, the whole thing should come together. Of course, that will probably happen the day after I die (which is coincidentally the same day I retire).




T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E.


Consulting Structural Engineers
V (949) 248-8588 F(949) 209-2509

-----Original Message-----
From: Garner, Robert [mailto:rgarner(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: I may have made a huge mistake...




What's the structural package that you use with that?  Or does it have a stand-alone structural program?


I considered upgrading as you have, and I may have made a huge mistake by not doing so.  If you don't mind, please let us know how your adventures into the uncharted jungles go.


Bob Garner, S.E.


From: Bill Allen [mailto:t.w.allen(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:09 PM
To: t.w.allen(--nospam--at)
Subject: I may have made a huge mistake...


I bit the bullet and upgraded to Revit Structure Suite. I incredibly dubious not only whether this will help me do a better job within budget but also whether this feeble old brain (which survived the 60s BTW) can absorb a new CAD package after working with AutoCAD for, gulp, 17 years! Holy crap! Has it been that long?


Of course, to earn the nickname my wife’s family has given me (Uncle “Worst Case Scenario” Bill), the “Suite” part includes AutoCAD 2008 which means I will at least get rid of the odd numbered version aka ACAD 2007 (I still get tremors when I hear “ACAD R13”) and will be able to at least move to Revit by evolution rather than revolution.


I’m scheduled for training class January 28th-30th, 2008.


Wish me luck. I’m going to need it.


T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E.


Consulting Structural Engineers
V (949) 248-8588 F(949) 209-2509