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Like what I mention in my reply to Gerard's email I am thinking about to offset the sill plate from the foundation edge to gain some edge distance, or like what you suggest that providing pop-out around the base/foundation of the house. 
Thanks for your suggestion.

Jnapd(--nospam--at) wrote:
In a message dated 12/12/2007 12:26:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, FTang(--nospam--at) writes:
This is a SOG tract house with standard 2x4 wall on exterior 15x18 cont. footing or thickened PT slab edge.  There is no crawlspace.  I am thinking to offset the 2x4 sill plate, may be an inch or so,  instead of having it lined up with the footing edge, so that I can get a better edge distance for a better anchor bolt breakout strength;  This will be a little off the standard construction practice and I donâ??t know the impact on the architectural issue like waterproofing and exterior covering, etc.
From: Gerard Madden, SE [mailto:gmse4603(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:03 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Is there a better way (2x4 SW Anchor Bolts to comply with ACI 318-05 Appendix D)?
This is for a slab on-grade house with a 2x4 wall stud?

I think you're stuck with 2x6's for slab on-grade then, but if there is a crawlspace, you can make the mudsill 2x8 flat and get the edge distance more toward the center of the footing.

Otherwise, you could have the centerline of the footing centered on the studs and have it bump out once you get below the soil line. You would need longer AB's to get that 7" below the widened portion.

On Dec 12, 2007 11:32 AM, Freeman C. Tang <ftang06(--nospam--at)> wrote:
Hello all,
Please bear with me; I know it is a little tedious! 
I am revising the anchor bolt spacings of my typical wood framed SW schedule and it seems to me that 5/8" dia. ABs won't work anymore for exterior wood SW with working stress load higher than 437 plf.
Per CBC 2007 1908.1.16 D3.3.5, which is basically ACI 318-05 Appendix D requirements with amendments, anchors in concrete shall be designed to be governed by:
1) Ductile (tensile or shear) yielding of steel element, or
2) Ductile yielding of the attachment that the anchor is connecting to the concrete structure, or
3) The minimum design strength of the anchors shall be at least 2.5 times the factored forces transmitted by the attachment.
For a 2x4 exterior SW with 5/8" dia. anchor bolts, 7" min. embedded into concrete, at 1.75" (at center of sill) from the concrete foundation edge for a typical tract house, the anchor bolt concrete breakout strength (with f'c = 2500 psi) that I have calculated is 1019 lbs (accounting for all the reduction factors, edge distance, no supplementary reinforcement, no edge bars, strength reduction factor, and seismic design category D reduction factor).
The anchor bolt concrete pryout strength is still high (8994 lbs) and won't govern.
The anchor bolt steel strength is 3173 lbs. (also accounting for all the reduction factors)
The nominal strength an anchor bolt in 2x4 sill plate based on NDS 2005 Table 11.E and Tables in Appendix N for LRFD conversion is 930x2.16 = 2009 lbs.
It indicates that the anchor bolt concrete breakout strength of 1019 lbs will govern, ductile yielding of either the steel anchor bolt or the 2x sill attachment can not be achieved, and therefore I have to design the strength of the anchor bolts to 2.5 times the factored forces transmitted. For a lightly loaded wood SW with only 350 plf at working stress level, the anchor bolts need to be designed for 350x1.4x2.5= 1225 plf, which means at 8" o.c. (1019x12/8 = 1529 plf.). Any wood SW with a working stress load of 437 plf., then 5/8" dia anchor bolts won't work!
Adding edge rebars will increase the anchor bolt concrete breakout strength about 20% but there is no room to put even a #4 horizontal to maintain the minimum 1.5" concrete cover. I don't want to use 2x6 walls to increase the edge distance to 2.75" for a higher anchor bolt breakout strength if I don't really have to. Increasing the anchor bolt size will not help too much either because the 1.75" edge distance basically limits the anchor bolt concrete breakout strength. I can use (MAS) mud sill anchors even at 8" o.c.with 1080 plf. allowable load, which is actually spaced too close already, but the MAS won't be good for double-sided SWs with the load of as high as 1740 plf.
I wonder if anyone has come across a similar situation.   Is there any better way to comply with the current ACI 318-05 Appendix D requirements for wood framed SW anchor bolts?  Am I overlooking anything?  Any comments and suggestions will greatly be appreciated.
Freeman Tang, S.E.
Gouvis Engineering, CA
Maybe you could suggest to the Architect/Designer to put a 1 1/2" revel line or pop-out detail around the base of the houses and line that up at edge of slab.  We have had this detail on various jobs for appearance but now it may become necessary for structural purposes.
The detail may or may not be cheaper than 2x6 evil word in tract houses.
Joe Venuti
Johnson & Nielsen Associates
Palm Springs, CA

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