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RE: Tilt-Up Wall Submittal Review
- To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
- Subject: RE: Tilt-Up Wall Submittal Review
- From: "Bill Allen" <T.W.Allen(--nospam--at)cox.net>
- Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:43:56 -0800
T. William (Bill)
V (949) 248-8588 •
From: Jake Watson
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007
Subject: Re: Tilt-Up Wall
How about no comment at
all. Did you ask for the submittal? If they submitted a drawing
showing OSHA fall protection systems, would you comment on it? I don't
see why you would make any comment (or even keep record that you received
it). Simply return it with no comments. At most, say you received
but have not reviewed it because it is means and methods. If you
acknowledge that you have "looked it over", you can potentially be held
accountable for the content. Maybe even the lifting procedures.
If you want to look at it, make sure you fully understand it the way you would
any other shop drawing. If you are not prepared to get that involved,
simply return it without any comment and stay away. It should be crystal
clear you have no responsibility or over site for means and methods.
I have designed crane picks for contractors (although not tilt). I
generally work with the contractor and rarely get the EOR involved unless there
is some glaring omission on the job. If the contractor has specific
questions, let him ask them. Otherwise I suggest you just return the
package and let him do his job.
Jake Watson, S.E.
Salt Lake City, UT
P.S. Then again, maybe I am just too cynical. It could be the contractor
is trying to be pro-active and keep you in the loop regarding his
procedures. Good luck!
On Dec 13, 2007 7:58 PM, Rich Lewis <seaint04(--nospam--at)lewisengineering.com>
received a large package of information for a tilt-up wall building I
designed. The submittal was produced by Dayton Superior. It
includes a lot of general information on tilt wall erection and then the insert
and bracing details for the wall panels. I wondering how a submittal like
this is typically handled by other engineers. This is basically a
"means and method of construction" submittal. I didn't
design the lifting procedure, sequence, anchors, bracing, etc.
think I should "approve" it. I don't think I should put a
typical shop drawing stamp on it. I'm considering sending it back with a
letter stating I looked at it, I don't take exception to anything and remind
the contractor that they are responsible for means and methods of construction
and I take no responsibility for the lifting and placing design.
how others handle it, or is should I look at this differently?