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Rhkratzse(--nospam--at)aol.com wrote:
Steve,

I certainly agree with your comment regarding a "typical" new house in the Bay Area. In that case the expense of a soil report may not be all that significant (although practically every client I've had has ended up his project "in extremis," making all sorts of pain-filled comments about being broke).

But what I'm really referring to is my typical client who is just adding a little room on the back of his house, or adding a partial second story. And what about if he's just adding a single new foundation for a new shear wall to make his house more earthquake resistant -- does he still need a $3,000 soil report? And if he does and it recommends a pier foundation, although the house has been sitting there on 3" deep shallow footings for 80 years without significant harm, what's the rationale in gold-plating the new foundation?

Sorry,

Ralph

In a message dated 1/15/08 9:03:52 AM, sgordin(--nospam--at)sgeconsulting.com writes:
Dave and Ralph,
It is not quite an "across the board" requirement. Overall, only a very limited number of houses will be affected, with the Bay and LA areas hit hardest. These areas are known for their no-so-good soils , and, in all honesty, require soil investigation anyway. As far as I know, a decent residential soil report in OC can be done for about $3K, and represents a negligible fraction of a median property cost of about $655K. V. Steve Gordin, SE
Irvine CA
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In a message dated 1/15/08 8:41:34 AM, davea(--nospam--at)laneengineers.com <mailto:davea(--nospam--at)laneengineers.com> writes:

The foundation is of the utmost importance, certainly, but to require a soils report across the board ... especially for light-frame/single-story/non-expansive-soil-supported structures ... seems sort of harsh.

Anything to drive up the cost of housing, eh?

Ralph



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I agree with Ralph here. Can someone tell us if the Exception in 1802.2.7 is a practical way to avoid a soils report for these small jobs?
Chuck Utzman, P.E.

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