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Re: Use 8d nails or 10d nails for Structural Panel Shear Walls

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We have been using the same nailing as Gerard Madden
Don't like 10d's in stud grade lumber. We spec No. 2 or better but they don't always read the plans.
In a message dated 2/3/2008 7:36:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, chuckuc(--nospam--at) writes:
Gerard Madden, SE wrote:
> I've been using 8d nails for shearwalls...10d for diaphragms.
> -gm
> On Feb 2, 2008 11:53 PM, Szuchuan Chang <szuchuan(--nospam--at)
> <mailto:szuchuan(--nospam--at)>> wrote:
>     I am re-tooling to 2007 CBC wood design.  Many items need to be
>     updated.
>     Many years ago, I was told to stay with 8d and 16d nails (common) as
>     much as possible.  In Doug Thompson's design example 1A, page 19,  in
>     the SDM Vol 2, he uses 10d nails on 4" o.c. with 510 plf allowable
>     shear.  It looks to me that he has been using 10d nails since the 1997
>     UBC examples.  I must be very out of date!
>     If Simpson Strong-tie's SSN10 nails (shorter than the real 10d) are
>     used in these applications, the 10d nails make sense.  It would be
>     easier to drive into the studs.
>     My question is: "Are most of the plywood shear walls are specified
>     with 10d nails these days in your office standards?"
>     Thanks
>     Sam Chang
>     PS:  Seems like a lot information on staples.  Are they more commonly
>     used over the nails in the state of California now?
Joe Venuti
Johnson & Nielsen Associates
Palm Springs, CA