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Re: 3x min for conc/mas wall anch to flex diaph?

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I'm sure the gang-nail truss people got that one ex-nayed...

The reason it's in the code was for 2x4 and 2x6's mainly. Nailed from above (roof nailing) and the side caused splitting.

I was okay using A35's for 2x10 and 2x12's on a masonry wall top where the rafters sit on a nailer, but even sometimes on those I would sister on a block to get (2) 2x's if they were at 24" o.c. Most plan checkers were okay with this when I explained the intent of the 3x provision.

For HD's, PHD's and whatever the new simpson hold-down is called, those are tabulated in DBL 2x's min, so I could easily and rightfully see a plan checker dis-allowing those if used on a single 2x (maybe the HD if someone did the bolt-calc).

I think clips with low forces, you're okay anchoring a 2x8 or deeper, but I would strive for 3x's and double 2x's at a minimum for anchor spacings greater than 2ft. or when using 2x6's or shallower


On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Gould, Diane <Diane.Gould(--nospam--at)> wrote:

The 1997 UBC Section 1633.2.8.1 item 5 required that wood "elements of anchorage" have the strength to take 0.85 x Fanch and have a minimum net thickness of 2.5 inches.  I am at a loss to find where this requirement is included in the new code.   ASCE 7-05 Section 12.11.2 addresses anchorage of concrete & masonry walls, but the 3x min requirement seems to have been dropped. 


I think you would have a hard time finding hardware to fit/work with members smaller than 3x anyway and I plan to continue detailing with 3x minimum.  Just curious if anyone else had noticed this or might have some background on possible reasons for this apparent omission.





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