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To my knowledge, there is nothing stoping a smaller firm from inviting other engineers over to use that one Internet connection and thus share the cost.  If that is too much "hassle", then I suppose that $250 is not that expensive for someone who CHOOSES not to take advantage of ways to make it less expensive.  And there is the fact that unless you are licensed in a state(s) that require continuing education, seminars are NOT mandatory things.  Thus, if you find that a seminar is too expensive, then you can always CHOOSE not to pay the money and take the seminar/webinar.
 
Regards,
 
Scott
Adrian, MI
-----Original Message-----
From: David Topete [mailto:d.topete73(--nospam--at)gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:35 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Re: I'm I just a small thinker?

That sounds great for Halff Assoc. and other larger firms.  But, what about the one and two person offices, such as Bill Allen's original post?  He has to pay $250 for a web connection for a design example on wood frame construction that he primarily does?  If he's willing to coordinate with other small offices for one of these 1.5 hr presentations, good for him.  i will say $250 is much less than the $700 for a one-day seminar in Scuttlebutt, IA.  But, it's nice to have a copy of the powerpoint slides, and to be able to ask questions as they come up.  just my two cents...

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Stan Caldwell <stancaldwell(--nospam--at)gmail.com> wrote:
Scott is entirely correct.  Halff Associates signs up for lunch hour
webinars of all flavors: structural, MEP, architectural, etc.  Then we
invite 60-80 employees to watch it on our 12 ft. HD screen.  We buy
lunch.  They each get a PDH.  Everybody wins, and it's all legit.

Stan

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Scott Maxwell <smaxwell(--nospam--at)umich.edu> wrote:
> Actually, NCSEA does NOT have individual membership.  NCSEA is a association
> of associations.  Thus, when you pay membership fee as an individual you are
> paying that money to a local structural engineering organization that then
> might be a member of NCSEA.  To some this might be splitting hairs, but in
> the real "dollars and cents" sense, it is a big deal...of the $200, only
> very small portion of it goes to NCSEA in the forms of dues (it was
> something like $10 per member of the local organization at one time...might
> have increased since then, but I am confident it is not much).
>
> The $200 membership that you mention is a sustaining membership fee for a
> structural engineer FIRM (which could conceivably be an individual
> practicing engineer).  I am guessing that not too many firms do that and if
> they do, it is purely because they believe in supporting NCSEA, not because
> they directly get something.
>
> I will also note that the $250 for the seminar is the fee for one INTERNET
> connection...not one person.  It clearly states that "several people may
> attend for one connection fee."  Thus, you could have 5 people (they are
> rather unspecific as to how many "several" constitutes) sitting around the
> computer watching the webinar.  In theory, you could have a room of 30
> people sitting in front of a projector (don't know if that constitutes
> "several" or not...nor how they might deal with PDHs at least in terms of
> official documentation of them).
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott
> Adrian, MI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Maynard [mailto:d_maynard(--nospam--at)wester-wetstein.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:15 AM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: RE: I'm I just a small thinker?
>
> I totally agree with you, Bill.  It's a one hour webinar that is more of a
> clarification of a design example.
>
>
>
> In my opinion, little things like this would be great to offer for free to
> their membership.  Minimum membership fee is $200.  What do you get for that
> money?  Wouldn't the added benefit of free continuing education via webinars
> just like this be a nice addition?
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> David Maynard
>
> Gillette, WY
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Bill Allen [mailto:t.w.allen(--nospam--at)cox.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:24 PM
> To: Seaint
> Subject: I'm I just a small thinker?
>
>
>
> Or does anyone else think it is ludicrous to charge $250 for a webinar
> connection?
>
>
>
> I'm referring to http://ncsea.com/. Don't get me wrong; I think Doug
> Thompson is a fine speaker and the topic should be interesting.
>
>
>
> But $250 and not even a continental breakfast?
>
>
>
> Is it just me?
>
>
>
> T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E.
>
> ALLEN DESIGNS
>
> Consulting Structural Engineers
>  V (949) 248-8588 • F(949) 209-2509
>
>

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