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Even if you use a steel plate on top of the wall to distribute the load
along the top of the top plate, you'll need to create a solid line of
2x6 studs under the top plate to take care of bearing on the underside
of the top plate and the top of the bottom plate. If my quick calcs are
right, you'll need about 2' of built-up studs (16+) total to handle the
compression perp on the plates.

However, that should handle the eccentricity.

Will a flat steel plate be stiff enough to distribute the load? What
about a C-channel over the top of the top plate to provide some
additional stiffness to distribute the load?



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Subject: RE: wood bearing problem
From: "Gordon Goodell" <GordonGoodell(--nospam--at)>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)>
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Above is an interior exposed column line where Arch wants big fat wood =
col's. In one early incarnation this was a steel structure, which would
= have solved all these problems. I haven't run the numbers yet, but I =
expect that with an HSS narrow enough to achieve a thermal break in a =
2x6 wall and ~3" eccentricity from the column above I'm going to have =
buckling problems.
From: Michel Blangy [mailto:mblangy(--nospam--at)]=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:54 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: wood bearing problem
Why not extend an HSS up two stories?
-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Goodell [mailto:GordonGoodell(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:46 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: wood bearing problem
Good morning,
I'm working on a stick-framed, 3-storey mixed use bldg w/ an =
overhanging story (1 row of covered parking). The plan is all open to =
allow maximum tenant flexibility. The result is that what was a column =
line above lands on a stud wall, w/ column loads around 80 kips (incl. =
LL reduction). This is a small town; you'd have to put everybody in the
= valley in the bldg to achieve the design load, but that's beside the =
point. It's very difficult to make the bearing work where an 12x12 =
column transitions to a 5 =BD" wide wall. I can take the load--at worst
= I'll have to bury an HSS in the wall-but I'm wondering how to support
= the column. Does it sound reasonable to use a steel plate to support =
the column above and then account for the eccentricity of load in the =
column below? The framers will hate it, but I'm not coming up with =
other good options. If I convince the architect to bury big wood =
columns in that wall I'll face the same problem (with more load) at the
= foundation.
Gordon Goodell

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