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Sad, but true, Ralph.



The days of “rolling up our sleeves and dealing with a problem” are long gone.


These days, the lawyers would still be in court filing lawsuits while the hurricane hit.



I believe there was a PBS documentary made about this…was it on Frontline or Nova?

No matter, it was ironic that the engineer brought in to supervise the fix was Leslie Robertson.

He is a very talented and successful engineer whom I respect very much, but I thought he was a

Little too harsh and judgmental on LeMessurier for my taste.


That was of course, in the pre 9/11 days.


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From: Rhkratzse(--nospam--at) [mailto:Rhkratzse(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:22 AM
To: dfisher(--nospam--at); seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Facing mistakes in structural design (a fantasy)


Amazing situation; LeMessurier, the structural engineer, was a hero in so many ways.  And everyone cooperated to resolve a potentially very dangerous situation.

BUT, can anyone imagine it happening today?  It reads like a fantasy, a story set in a long-lost world in which lawyers didn't control EVERYTHING.


Ralph Hueston Kratz, S.E.
Richmond CA USA

In a message dated 1/29/09 9:14:19 AM, dfisher(--nospam--at) writes:


That was the Citicorp Center in New York:

Fascinating article...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jorge Jimenez [mailto:joraljim(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:08 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Facing mistakes in structural design

I remember a story of a group of graduate students that found a design flaw
in a high-rise building for wind effects considerations. They called the
attention to the structural engineer who made the design. The designer, a
renowned structural engineer, courageously disclosed to the public his
mistake. The building was in use and then needed an important retrofitting.
Do you remember the name of this structural engineer or have knowledge of
similar and recognized circumstances?

Jorge Jimenez, PE

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