From: "Gary L. Hodgson and Assoc." <design(--nospam--at)hodgsoneng.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:48:45 -0500
Toot away. We all need those feel good moments to compensate for those
other times when you wake up in the middle of the night and say did I
forget to framitize the widget.
IIRC it was a grad student, and since this was 20+/- yrs ago they're
probably at the top of their profession by now.
My memory is that the critical thing is that the Citicorp building has
only 4 columns around the perimeter, but they're not at the corners,
they're in the middle of each side. The design, again IIRC, was based
on analyses in the X-X and Y-Y directions, but not in the diagonal
direction, which is what the student caught.
Not to toot my own horn, but in 1965 or '66, on my very first
engineering job, I was figuring the loads due to a four-legged
traveling crane and I came to the conclusion that diagonal forces
controlled, just as they did in the Citicorp building's columns.
Ralph Hueston Kratz, S.E.
Richmond CA USA
In a message dated 1/29/09 7:30:58 PM, seaint04(--nospam--at)lewisengineering.com
I'm wondering who that student was and what is he/she doing today?
From: David Fisher [mailto:dfisher(--nospam--at)fpse.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Facing mistakes in structural design
That was the Citicorp Center in New York:
David L. Fisher SE PE
International Project Manager
The Food Water Energy Company/movewithus international
Cambridge Business Park
Cambridge CB4 0WZ
312.622.0409 GSM mobile
THE FOOD WATER & ENERGY COMPANY
From: Jorge Jimenez [mailto:joraljim(--nospam--at)prtc.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: Facing mistakes in structural design
I remember a story of a group of graduate students that found a
in a high-rise building for wind effects considerations. They called the
attention to the structural engineer who made the design. The designer, a
renowned structural engineer, courageously disclosed to the public his
mistake. The building was in use and then needed an important
Do you remember the name of this structural engineer or have knowledge of
similar and recognized circumstances?
Jorge Jimenez, PE
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