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Seems like the code enforcement agency (if there was one) would be liable for not doing their job in ensuring the contract documents were submitted with appropriate stamps and signatures. There is still no official state building code or plan checking in Texas, correct?

Wouldn't a structure of this require Architectural drawings, a site plan, civil etc... for permitting? Can't they track down who was designing what from the architect?

Or can Jerry Jones do whatever he wants in Irving? (that was rhetorical).


On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM, <Jnapd(--nospam--at)> wrote:
We have found that same problem with Metal buildings where we are designing the foundation.  The client buys from A who sells products of B, C and D. The client assumes A is the designer and fabricator and finds out latter he is the middle man for profit only and is usually clueless about structures in general.
Joe Venuti
Johnson & Nielsen Associates
Palm Springs, CA

In a message dated 5/7/2009 12:51:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ad026(--nospam--at) writes:
According to the report, nobody, anywhere, designed the building or the
structure. According to Summit's web site, SUMMIT (Pennsylvania) designs the
large structures and COVER-ALL (Saskatchewan) fabricates them.

It is impossible to tell who was actually responsible for the structure
design if none of the available documentation actually has an engineer's
seal. The other missing link is the person responsible for the building
design. The reporter is headed in the right direction but may not be aware
that they are actually looking for multiple people.

Paul Ransom, P.Eng.
ph 905 639-9628
fax 905 639-3866

> Subject: Dallas Cowboys Roof Collapse
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> Bill:
> This project was apparently designed in Canada ...
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> Regards,
> Stan R. Caldwell, P.E., SECB, F.ASCE
> Richardson, Texas
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> What I want to know is this: Doesn't anyone design for wind in Texas?
> One little poof of wind, and an entire structure comes down?
> T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E.
> Consulting Structural Engineers
> V (949) 248-8588 =95 F(949) 209-2509

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