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Re: Nailer on Masory Wall
- To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
- Subject: Re: Nailer on Masory Wall
- From: ECVAl3(--nospam--at)aol.com
- Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:32:07 EDT
How about a steel angle clip @ 4'oc nailed or screwed to the joist and
bolted to the masonry through the wood plate with a TITEN HD bolt?
In a message dated 5/22/2009 1:16:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
for the replies. To clarify, this is an interior bearing wall where the
joists (TJIs) run over and bear on the nailer on the top of the cmu
know cross-grain bending is bad, but I’m just curious where in the code it
says that it is outlawed in all cases. Again, all I can find is in
reference to lateral anchorage for concrete/masonry walls to diaphragms.
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:57
Subject: Re: Nailer on Masory
you hang the joist from the wall with top flange hangers and put Pa straps at
bottom of joist max 4' o.c. that usually works assuming 12" deep joist
min. to get coverage around strap in cmu wall.
& Nielsen Associates
Palm Springs, CA
message dated 5/22/2009 12:51:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Most effective method of connecting a wood
nailer(ledger) AND to avoid X-grain bending is to place two (2) anchor
bolts (staggered) within the masonry wall a distance equal to the
depth of the ledger. This will usually require a deeper ledger than
would normally be required. Eg. for a calculated 2X10 you would use a
2X12 and locate the ab's min 3" from the top and 3" from the bottom of
nailer thereby "fixing" the nailer in place and reducing the danger of
--- On Fri, 5/22/09, Doug Mayer
From: Doug Mayer
Subject: Nailer on Masory
Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 12:11
typical nailer on top of a cmu wall. Joists bearing on nailer
and ties (H2.5) connecting joist to nailer for
DSA (California) backcheck comment believes that cross-grain bending
of the nailer needs to be avoided and to design direct connection to
never seen the code address cross-grain bending in anything other than
lateral anchorage of masonry/concrete walls to diaphragms. Does
the code somewhere specify that cross-grain bending in this situation
is not allowed? Any help would be appreciated.
Doug Mayer, SE
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