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Re: Unreinforced Adobe Brick in California? Really?

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Jim
 
The Saga begins.......
 
The old roof and interior walls were wood stud and wood trusses. The owner in their haste to get backup and running had us design a steel structural system since the old wood one burned down for the second time in 25 years. The insurance company refused to pay for the steel system and wood only pay to rebuild the wood system.
 
There was a 4 bay concrete frame within the building, a bay at each end was remove because poor beam construction and a column in the middle of the new walkway.  And that was debated for months. So we have a 2 bay frame left beams & columns are 24" wide by 22" high a sq. # 4 in each corner & a sq. #3 ties @ 12"o.c..  The B.O.B.  height is 9' and beam spans about 12' & 15'.  We had to keep this also because the insurance would not pay to replace, since it was not damaged by fire.  Even quake wrap told us that the 750 plf loading did not require the beams or columns to be improved. I had a real hard time with the logic of that both quakewrap and WJE on this issue. The insurance & WJE engineer did not see the humor the letter I wrote naming them as CO SERs in regard to the concrete frame issue for the life of the structure.
 
This insurance company uses WJE for their structural consultant on all projects.
 
 
Joe Venuti
Johnson & Nielsen Associates
Palm Springs, CA
 
In a message dated 6/19/2009 4:21:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jgetaz(--nospam--at)shockeyprecast.com writes:
        Joe,
                Please humor an ignorant concrete engineer and tell me why an insurance company would “nix[]
the steel  structure we designed.”
        Thank you,
        Jim Getaz