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Unless there is a mechanism to transfer horizontal shear (i.e. shear studs), you should calculate the strength of the steel beam as an independent structural element.  The concrete could be assumed to provide lateral bracing only.  Shear studs can be added and would provide a significant increase in flexural strength. 
>From what you have presented, I would say that it is doubful that the W 8x24 has sufficient strength for the applied static loading.  It is different if this is a dynamic load, but there is insufficient data if this is a dynamic load application. 

Regards, Harold Sprague

> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:15:23 -0400
> Subject: How to Calculate strength of embedded beams
> From: kapil.nandwana(--nospam--at)
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)
> Hi All :
> I need to calculate the strength of a W 8 X 24 beam embedded in the
> concrete of 8" and which is 240" long .How should I proceed to solve
> this problem. Is there any reference to which I can look into which
> talks about the strength of embedded beams ?
> Basically, the reason why I need this is because I am currently
> working on a project where I have designed a test fixture for doors.
> The base of the test fixture will be welded on to the W 8 X 24 beam
> embedded in the concrete. FE Analysis predicts that the test fixture
> will be pulling up the embedded beam with a force of 20,000 lbf .
> Is the embedded beam able to resist that force without any failure to
> concrete/beam ?
> Your suggestions and help in answering this question is highly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Kapil
> Structural Engineer, EWI
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