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The dearth is because most archys are terrible about money.


They are afraid to ask the owners for it…and when they get it, they

Keep it.



I have a client that did exactly that…he got paid by the owner

(who was a friend of mine) and I knew he got paid.


I confronted the architect about and called me “unprofessional”



David L. Fisher SE PE

Senior Principal


Fisher and Partners

372 West Ontario

Suite 301

Chicago 60654


312.622.0409 (m)


312.573.1726 (f)



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhkratzse(--nospam--at) [mailto:Rhkratzse(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:59 PM
To: mblangy(--nospam--at); seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Contracting through Architect


I would also be somewhat leery, or at least *careful*, when contracting with an owner through a "representative."  Depending on how large a project is, and whether it justifies the overhead of an attorney-reviewed specific contract (most of mine don't), and who the rep is -- licensed, unlicensed, or just the client's brother who happens to be out of work at the moment -- such an arrangement *might* be acceptable.

BTW there appears to be a dearth of "pro" comments about contracting with an architect.   ;)


In a message dated 11/5/09 11:40:53 AM, mblangy(--nospam--at) writes:

From PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS ACT (Business and Professions Code §§ 6700 – 6799)
"The written contract shall be executed by the professional engineer and the client, or his or her representative, prior to the professional engineer commencing work,.."
What would constitute a "representative?"
> As far as I know, at least in California, a professional engineer may not have a contract with an unlicensed. You must have a written agreement with the owner.