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Dear,
                 May be I misunderstood your post as a hate message
sent to you. We listen to all this buzz of corruption in my country
'India', so i would not be much amazed or disbelieve you particularly
on this aspect of corruption. Corruption is a problem with civil
engineers usually but USA is popular for its ethics code ie. Code of
conduct and being truthful towards your company and branch but many
time this is not done. I have not went through deeper problems of
Civil engineers as of now but I am sure the S Curve looks a little
awkward which may be due to two reasons-
(a)	Due to some engineering difficulties regarding foundation etc
(b)	Second is the reason which you are giving.
Being here in India, I cannot straight away say which option is
correct or wrong. But people like you and all engineers there can at
least ask questions to authorities and its on people like you to tell
the world about it .

Regards

On 11/13/09, Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl <astaneh(--nospam--at)ce.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> Dear Avi:  I am sorry that I can't understand what your post is trying to
> say. Dr. zzzzz has sent me the nice short e-mail complementing my speaking
> out about this unbelievable corruption in Seismic Advisory Board of Caltrans
> which , in my opinion is the root cause of all these problems with the Bay
> Bridge and now a fatality.  Why are you asking Dr. zzzz to "Maintain a
> decorum" ?   And why are you asking me to "reveal his name to Seaint for
> some kind of action"?. What are you talking about?  He has written a nice
> letter to me. Why "some kind of action should be taken against him?
> Besides, if he wanted to have his name revealed he would have posted the
> note on Seaint instead of sending me privately. How can I violate his
> privacy and reveal his name?   I think you may have misunderstood the hate
> mail case in my post. The hate mail I received was from someone else and
> that e-mail was turned over to Berkeley police (I had typed in my post
> "Campus mail" instead of "Campus police".  Please let us focus on preventing
> a few in our community such as members of the Seismic Advisory Board of
> Caltrans from destroying fine reputation of so many structural engineers ,
> who are doing their jobs honorably and with public safety in mind.
>
>  It is very simple: Seismic Advisory Board(SAB) of Caltrans was created
> after Loma Prieta quake to be an "independent " watch dog overseeing and
> approving Caltrans seismic designs. For first four years and under
> Chairmanship of the late Professor Housner, the SAB did exactly that. But
> after that the former Chair Dr. Penzien and the current Chair Dr. Frieder
> Seible , who is the Dean of School of Engineering at San Diego and almost
> all members of SAB started receiving multi-million dollar contracts from
> Caltrans for research and consulting in a non-competitive basis. In essence,
> The Chair and members of SAB were getting money from Caltrans to do
> consulting, then presenting their work to Caltrans only to be presented to
> themselves for approval. Believe me such a corrupt system , in our
> professions results in someone getting killed and the someone may have been
> the truck driver killed on the S-curve of Bay Bridge.
>
> Let us keep the focus on eradicating this corruption and saving lives.
>
>
> Best wishes.
>
> A. Astaneh
>
>
> Subject: Re: Being Outspoken
> From: Avi Sharma <leisuresoul.avi(--nospam--at)gmail.com>
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>
> Dr zzzzz
>                I am really feeling bad about this one now. You can say
> to this extent is something that is out of limit. I think you should
> have read something about the prof you are saying this. He is a real
> Civilian !! If you had guts then you would have come a general message
> through seaint. I am not against you but the point I am trying to make
> is about a decorm of place you are in. This is not orkut/fb, this is
> something serious and something of our branch's concern.
> Just one message, Maintain a decorm !!
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Prof Astaneh,
>                              Please reveal his name to admins atleast
> for some kind of Action.
>
>
>
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Avi Sharma
2nd Year
Department of Civil Engineering,
SRKNEC, India

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