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From: David Topete <d.topete73(--nospam--at)>
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 6:37:40 PM
Subject: Re: Roof Deck Live Loads

Yes, way conservative.  But, don't put it past the tenants of unit 3A to have some friends over for a Tiki lounge party, complete with sand and faux palms...  Unless, you are designing an assisted living facility.  

Be safe and design for 100 psf LL, otherwise, post signs all around so that folks are aware of allowable LL limits..

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Larry Hauer <lhauer(--nospam--at)> wrote:
Sorry if this message has already been posted, but I didn't see it so, so here it is again

I am designing a 3 story Type V apartment building which has a “Roof Terrace” above the top floor which is accessible from 2 stairways located outside the units, (i.e.- I guess anyone could access the roof terrace). The old code, (’97 UBC), would allow the roof to be designed for 40 psf live load, (Roof Decks, Item 15 of Table 16_A, ’97 UBC), but the current code, (’07 CBC or ’06 IBC), Table 1607.1 doesn’t have this category in it, (Roof Decks). Is considering this area a “Deck”, (Item 9 of Table 1607.1), appropriate, or should it be considered a possible “Assembly Area” due to it’s access from both exterior stairs? I feel 100 psf assembly live load is way to conservative for it’s use, but I guess anything is possible.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Larry Hauer, S.E.

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