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Me, too.  I put in collateral dead load as zero for load combinations with
uplift.  I think most most PEMB designers use the same convention.  

I can't speak for all of them.  I work with a Varco-Pruden builder and
Varco-Pruden licenses  proprietary structural software to them.   Pretty
sophisticated system: sophisticated enough that non-engineers can easily get
into trouble using it.   / eric

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Topics covered in this issue include:

   1: Collateral - Dead or Live?
             by Jim Getaz [mailto:jgetaz(--nospam--at)shockeyprecast.com] 



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I list it as a live load.  The reason I do is because it is possibly there,
or possibly not.  The controlling load combination for footing design is
usually 0.6D + W.  This keeps it from being used to resist wind uplift.

 

Rich

 

 

From: Jim Getaz [mailto:jgetaz(--nospam--at)shockeyprecast.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:49 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Collateral - Dead or Live?

 

        Listers,

                Poll: If you use the term collateral load or if it is used
on some of your projects, do you consider it a dead load or a live load?

        Thank you,

        Jim Getaz

 

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