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Thank you all for your insights.

This all is not going very well with me because I have some experience with recruiters and these guys are somewhat strange in more than one aspect. 
The job is basically a Euro equivalent to say Alaska, if you know what I mean, and it comes out that it involves relocation to a country that I really don't want to relocate to (not mentioned during that initial expectation assessment), so I think I'll pass this time.
I hope this OT was at least somewhat entertaining for you.

Thanks and regards,
Alex.

P.s. Seismic engineering is incredible fun, never felt that way since high school. I'm really thankful for all the advices given here recently. I've joined the EERI; they hold a webinar on Chilean quake July 15. Now I am also writing an API routine for Autodesk RSA that implements floor response spectra calculations. Still no RSA users on the list?

On 5 July 2011 18:50, Harold Sprague <spraguehope(--nospam--at)hotmail.com> wrote:

Alex,

See below for my responses.В 

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My questions are:

- is it OK to revise your wage expectations after the interview?

Yes.В 

The employer flies me in on site at their expense. If yes, what is better to give as a reason?

As you learned more about the position, you have developed a betterВ understanding of the duties of the positionВ and you have a better understanding ofВ an appropriate compensation.В 

В 

- if a job is (sort of) contract-based (that is, there is a specific project, albeit long-term), does the contract usually oblige you to stick with the project for the whole estimated term?

Usually, engineers work "at risk" unless there is a signed contract.В  A contract is rare and most engineering positions are "at risk".В  This means that you can leave the position at any time and they can terminate you at any time.В  If you have a written contract (which is not too common), you will have terms and conditions for contract termination.В  Often times, there is a minimum time that you must work.В  But if there is a minimum time, there should be some sort of compensation or signing bonus which would be forfeited if you quit early.В 

В 

Should I discuss this with the recruiter in advance?В 

It would be best to discuss it with the recruiter.В  However, keep in mind that theВ recruiter is mostlyВ going to serve the recruiter's interest.В  If you are compensating the recruiter, the recruiter will beВ primarily representing you.В  If the employer is compensating the recruiter, the recruiter will be primarilyВ serving the interests ofВ the employer.В  В 


Regards, Harold Sprague
В 

From: bauskas(--nospam--at)gmail.com
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 00:36:10 +0300

Subject: Career ethic OT
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org

Dear listers,

This week I will be having a meeting with a prospect employer.
I am not that much of a job switcher so I reallyВ need your advice regarding ehm... work and negotiations ethic.
The main problem is, I have discussed an expected per hour salary with the agency recruiter 3 months back. I have not seen the proper job description though and now I think that I might have underestimated the figure.
My questions are:
- is it OK to revise your wage expectations after the interview? The employer flies me in on site at their expense. If yes, what is better to give as a reason?
- if a job is (sort of) contract-based (that is, there is a specific project, albeit long-term), does the contract usually oblige you to stick with the project for the whole estimated term? Should I discuss this with the recruiter in advance?

The employer is based in Europe so what I would ask is a general western-attitude advice.
TIA,
Alex.
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Alexander Bausk
Civil/Structural design & inspection engineer, CAD professional
MSc Structural engineering, Ph.C. Engineering
http://bausk.wordpress.com
ONILAES Lab at PSACEA
Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine
Tel. +38 068 4079692
Fax. +38 0562 470263
bauskas(--nospam--at)gmail.com



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Alexander Bausk
Civil/Structural design & inspection engineer, CAD professional
MSc Structural engineering, Ph.C. Engineering
http://bausk.wordpress.com
ONILAES Lab at PSACEA
Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine
Tel. +38 068 4079692
Fax. +38 0562 470263
bauskas(--nospam--at)gmail.com