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Thank-you.  This helps. 

Regards, Harold Sprague

From: h.d.richardson(--nospam--at)
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Rebar Shop Drawings - European Practices
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:07:16 -0600

Harold, Stuart,
        I was about to reply separately but this says everything I could have said.
H. Daryl Richardson
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: Rebar Shop Drawings - European Practices

Here in the US for design/build tilt-up construction, the EOR develops what are essentially rebar shop drawings for each individual panel that are used directly by the tilt-up panel sub-contractor for ordering and fabrication of the reinforcing, embeds and inserts.


I think some DOT’s require that a rebar Bill of Material be submitted as a part of the final drawings, which I think end up being used eventually by the concrete sub-contractor to order and fabricate material.


On another topic, I think the Peer Review process in Germany is also substantially different from the US and involves “Proof Engineers” that are federally licensed independent peer reviewers. Similar peer review systems I think also exist in France and Belgium.


D. Matthew Stuart, P.E., S.E., F.ASCE, SECB
Structural Division Manager

Pennoni Associates Inc.
One Drexel Plaza
3001 Market Street, 2nd Floor
Philadelphia, PA 19104
Office 215-222-3000 x7895 | Direct 215-254-7895
Fax 215-222-0789 | Mobile 908-309-8657 | mstuart(--nospam--at)


From: Harold Sprague [mailto:spraguehope(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:22 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Rebar Shop Drawings - European Practices


I was recently informed that the practice in Europe and Germany (in particular) is for the structural engineer to develop the shop drawings for concrete reinforcing steel. 
In most other places in which I have worked, the develpment of the concrete reinforcing steel shop drawings is performed by the concrete reinforcing steel supplier/contractor. 
I would appreciate any comments.

Regards, Harold Sprague